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[–] sns@lemmy.dbzer0.com 59 points 6 months ago (10 children) Windows 7 was arguably the last OS they ever made. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (7 children) This line of thought goes all the way back to NT, and even then IBM would have some comments. DOS was the last one they built, and they made a really decent GUI for it before they switched to NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 months ago* (3 children) And they still haven't even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT. I don't outright hate PowerShell but it's clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children) I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago* (1 child) For sure, it's a vast improvement, but there's still so much you can't do with it. Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent [–] exaybachae@startrek.website 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Wasn't 7 just an visually updated NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 6 months ago everything after w2k is NT. by kernel version, its NT4: 4.0 2000: 5.0 XP: 5.1 Vista: 6.0 7: 6.1 8: 6.2 8.1: 6.3 10: 10.0 haven't checked 11 but i bet you they bumped the major again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago You skipped vista, XP, and 2000. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago Windows 10 arguably became passable for stability about 3 years after release... but you still had to cut out the advertising bloat, spyware, and all which undermined any gains of stability because that shit was just fucking annoying. permalink fedilink source parent [–] lime@feddit.nu 1 point 6 months ago wasn't advertised as such though permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago (7 children) This line of thought goes all the way back to NT, and even then IBM would have some comments. DOS was the last one they built, and they made a really decent GUI for it before they switched to NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 months ago* (3 children) And they still haven't even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT. I don't outright hate PowerShell but it's clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children) I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago* (1 child) For sure, it's a vast improvement, but there's still so much you can't do with it. Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent [–] exaybachae@startrek.website 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Wasn't 7 just an visually updated NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 6 months ago everything after w2k is NT. by kernel version, its NT4: 4.0 2000: 5.0 XP: 5.1 Vista: 6.0 7: 6.1 8: 6.2 8.1: 6.3 10: 10.0 haven't checked 11 but i bet you they bumped the major again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago You skipped vista, XP, and 2000. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 6 months ago* (3 children) And they still haven't even finished making PowerShell anywhere near as functional as Bash or any other Linux shell environment. First version of PowerShell came out exactly 10 years after the first version of NT. I don't outright hate PowerShell but it's clearly a hacky afterthought after realizing Linux was eating their lunch in the server space via quick rollouts to thousands of computers at once through Bash scripting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children) I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago* (1 child) For sure, it's a vast improvement, but there's still so much you can't do with it. Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (2 children) I find PS pretty great. Probably the best improvement to Windows since going 32-bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago* (1 child) For sure, it's a vast improvement, but there's still so much you can't do with it. Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 6 months ago* (1 child) For sure, it's a vast improvement, but there's still so much you can't do with it. Mostly because unlike Bash and DOS, which are CLIs that get GUIs slapped on top, PowerShell is a CLI slapped on top of a GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] greybeard@feddit.online 1 point 6 months ago I disagree, you can do almost anything with powershell. There isn't always an exact command for it, but like 95% of Windows configuration lives in the registry. If you know what to change, you can make powershell manage any setting. Which is similar to the way that Bash controls Linux, through modifying config files. I do wish they had more/better tools for configuring the OS, but it works pretty well if you know the arcane magic of Windows. And when it comes to being a functional script, I'd take powershell over bash any day. That's preference, obviously, but objects instead of strings makes it way easier to move data from one process to another. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 1 point 6 months ago (2 children) Wasn't 7 just an visually updated NT. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 6 months ago everything after w2k is NT. by kernel version, its NT4: 4.0 2000: 5.0 XP: 5.1 Vista: 6.0 7: 6.1 8: 6.2 8.1: 6.3 10: 10.0 haven't checked 11 but i bet you they bumped the major again. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago You skipped vista, XP, and 2000. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 6 months ago everything after w2k is NT. by kernel version, its NT4: 4.0 2000: 5.0 XP: 5.1 Vista: 6.0 7: 6.1 8: 6.2 8.1: 6.3 10: 10.0 haven't checked 11 but i bet you they bumped the major again. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago You skipped vista, XP, and 2000. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 6 months ago Windows 10 arguably became passable for stability about 3 years after release... but you still had to cut out the advertising bloat, spyware, and all which undermined any gains of stability because that shit was just fucking annoying. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 point 6 months ago wasn't advertised as such though permalink fedilink source parent