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Discord delays global age verification rollout after backlash - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com)
submitted 7 months ago by to c/technology@lemmy.world
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[–] 268 points 7 months ago (27 children)

They're delaying it by six months. They're banking on this blowing over by then. Fuck discord.

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  • [–] 148 points 7 months ago (16 children)

    Let's hope this gives competitors more time to get things setup well.

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  • [–] 89 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    Was about to say this, how nice of discord to give people time to migrate to another service

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  • [–] 20 points 7 months ago (7 children)

    The thing that's insane to me is that most of the alternatives have screen sharing with working audio on the back burner, while I can tell you that the first one to get it working will be my go to. Hopefully with this extra cushion, one of them can get it working it's the only thing discord has over its competitors other than general stability related things.

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  • [–] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Fluxer has screen sharing with audio.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Audio hasn't worked for me or my friends across Linux or Windows. Been kind of a pain.

    It also seems to suffer the XWayland issue in Linux that Discord did for quite some time where it just flat out fails to get screen capture in the desktop app, but works in the browser. Electron pains

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    element call has screen sharing with audio. afaik joining a call does not even require registration, but that could depend on the server

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    If that is the video conferencing in the desktop then I can tell you that that has not been my experience with it both on windows and w/ Wayland

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    it depends. I don't know if Element desktop uses it already, but a few months ago I have seen in the matrix live streams that they are already using it for team communication

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVFkW-chclhuyYRbmmfwt6w

    but it also depends on whether your homeserver operators has set up a working element call/matrixrtc stack for it. if not, the apps will definitely use the old video conferencing implementation

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (6 children)

    This is my take. Fluxer and Root are the top two for my group, but they need more time in the oven(hell, everything does).

    So far I've uninstalled discord on my devices and I'm using it via the web browser only in a container tab, until my group switches over to something else.

    Can't fucking wait to delete my account.

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  • [–] 5 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Matrix seems pretty mature, and has screen sharing with audio?

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Matrix the protocol, yeah, is fine. The clients? Only Element Classic seems to work decently on Android, the newer one sucks. The other half dozen clients are atrocious. On desktop Element is fine, but I was experiencing extreme latency, however that was during the initial "rush" to find a Discord alternative a week or so ago.

    But, my biggest gripe is trying to explain what Matrix is to other people. Then have to explain what federation is, then the fediverse. Then I get dumb questions of "Why do I need to create a Matrix account to use Element? Can't I just use a Element account?" which either means they didn't understand my previous explanation or they weren't paying attention.

    With Fluxer or Root or whatever, I can say "Go make an account on Fluxer.app and then go use the web version until the app is released" and everyone understands that just fine.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    Yeah, I'll have to work on my explanation there as well.

    As I understand it, Matrix is a standard for doing Discord-like things (and other stuff as well, but never mind that), but it's also an organization that hosts a service that follows that standard - you can make an account there, and use whatever client you like to join servers and do Discord-like things.

    But anyone could host such a service, or make such clients, so a big tech firm could never fully own Matrix - in the same way that they can never fully own email.

    Sound right?

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago

    its best to just tell them about Element, and leave the Matrix name out. the curious ones will find it out.

    Then I get dumb questions of "Why do I need to create a Matrix account to use Element? Can't I just use a Element account?"

    this could work: "when you want to try a different client than Element, you can use the same login for that too"

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  • [–] 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I cancelled my nitro when it was announced they were doing this shady crap and it's staying cancelled until there is credible assurances they won't be handing over personal data to the like so palantir and other related goons.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 months ago*

    The only way you should trust them, or anyone else, is if they don't collect your personal data at all. There is absolutely no way I'd trust any website or service with information like what they want. All of these laws are explicitly designed to create a digital profile of every person so they can track what you do. It can't be done ethically because it isn't supposed to be done ethically.

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Nice, I been struggling getting group chats working in Matrix. I don't have to rush now.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    I'd recommend creating a private room and inviting people to it instead. You can optionally enable encryption as well, but keep in mind it has perfect forward secrecy, so people won't be able to view messages from before they joined.

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