▲ 684 ▼ Discord delays global age verification rollout after backlash - Dexerto (www.dexerto.com) submitted 7 months ago by Itwasntme223@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world 158 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 69 points 7 months ago (23 children) Too late biiiiiiiiiitch we already had our exodus. permalink fedilink source hideshow 23 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 28 points 7 months ago (18 children) Where'd we go though? Which place with the streaming and chatting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 7 months ago (7 children) XMPP with their myriad of gnu-ified clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago (6 children) Which client is the multi-platform one with message history and streaming video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gajim is one. Dino is another (I think). You just need to make sure the client has Jingle compatability (xmpp plugin) for streaming video. A lot let you connect to multiple.xmpp servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago Movim. Though due to how recent it was implemented, you must use a chromium based browser to stream the application's audio too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Matrix, can easily do the above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Except audio on the screen share, it is my biggest issue with matrix currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Why? It works flawlessly for me. Are you self hosting? Are you on Wayland? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using Matrix for about a decade. Federated, encrypted chats and rooms (optional), supports video, self hostable, fully open source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* I have too. It's... Really not ready for primetime, based on present-day experiences watching rooms lurch into view (and I don't even think it's possible to search for them on Android). Has video at least gotten better? permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I setup a Haven (Github) self-hosted instance and am slowly dragging friends over as the dev pumps out features. All the important stuff is already available, still more on the way. Also has things like E2E, which I don't care about for my community/server, but it is nice to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) How the heck have I not heard of this one yet? It already looks promising - I see video, chat, channel organization... https://github.com/ancsemi/Haven permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It's one main dev, another doing android, and supporters (I myself have been firing off ideas, suggestions, and issue tickets, and trying to help other users). An electron desktop program is in the works too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 15 points 7 months ago (3 children) "Too late" isn't even relevant anyway, they're still doing it, so everyone should still be leaving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago It's nice in that it gives the various Discord competitors a longer period to work on getting their software spiffed up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child) I'd argue its completely relevant as they are trying to save face here. Anyone who has somehow made it to 2026 without a hostile relationship to corporations (most red and blue team in America) will probably take this as a sign to come back for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Agreed; Discord is trying to lull people into a false sense of security as a means of convincing them to stay, in the same manner that Reddit gave limited API access to apps like RedReader to stem the tide of users leaving for platforms like Lemmy. Beyond age verification, if Discord is scanning a user's messaging history to determine what their age is, one can only imagine all the other data valuable to data brokers that they are extracting from it too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 28 points 7 months ago (18 children) Where'd we go though? Which place with the streaming and chatting? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 7 months ago (7 children) XMPP with their myriad of gnu-ified clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago (6 children) Which client is the multi-platform one with message history and streaming video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gajim is one. Dino is another (I think). You just need to make sure the client has Jingle compatability (xmpp plugin) for streaming video. A lot let you connect to multiple.xmpp servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago Movim. Though due to how recent it was implemented, you must use a chromium based browser to stream the application's audio too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] littleomid@feddit.org 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Matrix, can easily do the above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Except audio on the screen share, it is my biggest issue with matrix currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Why? It works flawlessly for me. Are you self hosting? Are you on Wayland? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent [–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using Matrix for about a decade. Federated, encrypted chats and rooms (optional), supports video, self hostable, fully open source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* I have too. It's... Really not ready for primetime, based on present-day experiences watching rooms lurch into view (and I don't even think it's possible to search for them on Android). Has video at least gotten better? permalink fedilink source parent [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I setup a Haven (Github) self-hosted instance and am slowly dragging friends over as the dev pumps out features. All the important stuff is already available, still more on the way. Also has things like E2E, which I don't care about for my community/server, but it is nice to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) How the heck have I not heard of this one yet? It already looks promising - I see video, chat, channel organization... https://github.com/ancsemi/Haven permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It's one main dev, another doing android, and supporters (I myself have been firing off ideas, suggestions, and issue tickets, and trying to help other users). An electron desktop program is in the works too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 18 points 7 months ago (7 children) XMPP with their myriad of gnu-ified clients. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago (6 children) Which client is the multi-platform one with message history and streaming video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gajim is one. Dino is another (I think). You just need to make sure the client has Jingle compatability (xmpp plugin) for streaming video. A lot let you connect to multiple.xmpp servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago Movim. Though due to how recent it was implemented, you must use a chromium based browser to stream the application's audio too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 8 points 7 months ago (6 children) Which client is the multi-platform one with message history and streaming video? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gajim is one. Dino is another (I think). You just need to make sure the client has Jingle compatability (xmpp plugin) for streaming video. A lot let you connect to multiple.xmpp servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent [–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago Movim. Though due to how recent it was implemented, you must use a chromium based browser to stream the application's audio too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 8 points 7 months ago (4 children) Gajim is one. Dino is another (I think). You just need to make sure the client has Jingle compatability (xmpp plugin) for streaming video. A lot let you connect to multiple.xmpp servers permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) For someone not in, this comments sounds like a meme xD If I jingle my dino I can connect to what? No way it gets through "I can't be arsed" of normies xD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 1 point 7 months ago I gave in and just made a fluxer account. I'll just self-host that when they relaunch the docs. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fleem@piefed.zeromedia.vip 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) dino all dayyyyyy baybayyyyy cheogram on Android permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 3 points 7 months ago The only problem I see are my non-techie friends aren't used to the skype style calling anymore. They want a voice channel that is persistent for dropping in and out permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 5 points 7 months ago Movim. Though due to how recent it was implemented, you must use a chromium based browser to stream the application's audio too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 5 points 7 months ago (4 children) Matrix, can easily do the above. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Except audio on the screen share, it is my biggest issue with matrix currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Why? It works flawlessly for me. Are you self hosting? Are you on Wayland? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (3 children) Except audio on the screen share, it is my biggest issue with matrix currently. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Why? It works flawlessly for me. Are you self hosting? Are you on Wayland? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 3 points 7 months ago (2 children) Why? It works flawlessly for me. Are you self hosting? Are you on Wayland? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Attacker94@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using matrix.org, it doesn't work with the desktop app on windows, & I use the element-desktop package from the arch extra repo, which also doesn't work. I do use Wayland, as I am unable to run an x11 de for various reasons permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] littleomid@feddit.org 2 points 7 months ago Yeah then it’s a Wayland issue. Idk why Wayland is being pushed so hard by various distros despite it still not being ready. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 months ago (1 child) I've been using Matrix for about a decade. Federated, encrypted chats and rooms (optional), supports video, self hostable, fully open source. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* I have too. It's... Really not ready for primetime, based on present-day experiences watching rooms lurch into view (and I don't even think it's possible to search for them on Android). Has video at least gotten better? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 4 points 7 months ago* I have too. It's... Really not ready for primetime, based on present-day experiences watching rooms lurch into view (and I don't even think it's possible to search for them on Android). Has video at least gotten better? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 point 7 months ago (2 children) I setup a Haven (Github) self-hosted instance and am slowly dragging friends over as the dev pumps out features. All the important stuff is already available, still more on the way. Also has things like E2E, which I don't care about for my community/server, but it is nice to have. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) How the heck have I not heard of this one yet? It already looks promising - I see video, chat, channel organization... https://github.com/ancsemi/Haven permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It's one main dev, another doing android, and supporters (I myself have been firing off ideas, suggestions, and issue tickets, and trying to help other users). An electron desktop program is in the works too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] XLE@piefed.social 5 points 7 months ago (1 child) How the heck have I not heard of this one yet? It already looks promising - I see video, chat, channel organization... https://github.com/ancsemi/Haven permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It's one main dev, another doing android, and supporters (I myself have been firing off ideas, suggestions, and issue tickets, and trying to help other users). An electron desktop program is in the works too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago It's one main dev, another doing android, and supporters (I myself have been firing off ideas, suggestions, and issue tickets, and trying to help other users). An electron desktop program is in the works too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 15 points 7 months ago (3 children) "Too late" isn't even relevant anyway, they're still doing it, so everyone should still be leaving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago It's nice in that it gives the various Discord competitors a longer period to work on getting their software spiffed up. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child) I'd argue its completely relevant as they are trying to save face here. Anyone who has somehow made it to 2026 without a hostile relationship to corporations (most red and blue team in America) will probably take this as a sign to come back for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Agreed; Discord is trying to lull people into a false sense of security as a means of convincing them to stay, in the same manner that Reddit gave limited API access to apps like RedReader to stem the tide of users leaving for platforms like Lemmy. Beyond age verification, if Discord is scanning a user's messaging history to determine what their age is, one can only imagine all the other data valuable to data brokers that they are extracting from it too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 8 points 7 months ago It's nice in that it gives the various Discord competitors a longer period to work on getting their software spiffed up. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 5 points 7 months ago* (1 child) I'd argue its completely relevant as they are trying to save face here. Anyone who has somehow made it to 2026 without a hostile relationship to corporations (most red and blue team in America) will probably take this as a sign to come back for now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Agreed; Discord is trying to lull people into a false sense of security as a means of convincing them to stay, in the same manner that Reddit gave limited API access to apps like RedReader to stem the tide of users leaving for platforms like Lemmy. Beyond age verification, if Discord is scanning a user's messaging history to determine what their age is, one can only imagine all the other data valuable to data brokers that they are extracting from it too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) Agreed; Discord is trying to lull people into a false sense of security as a means of convincing them to stay, in the same manner that Reddit gave limited API access to apps like RedReader to stem the tide of users leaving for platforms like Lemmy. Beyond age verification, if Discord is scanning a user's messaging history to determine what their age is, one can only imagine all the other data valuable to data brokers that they are extracting from it too. permalink fedilink source parent