▲ 494 ▼ Susan Collins hands Trump the 50th vote against free and fair elections (www.democracydocket.com) submitted 6 months ago by just_another_person@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world 98 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 152 points 6 months ago (3 children) Man, I'll never fully understand what the fuck is wrong with Maine residents and their obsession with her. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (3 children) I don't know the situation in Maine, but being a deciding vote usually means you get a lot of concessions. It's quite possible Maine residents get what they want from her via these concessions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] exaybachae@startrek.website 47 points 6 months ago* (1 child) So bribery. Maine residents are okay with immoral national politics, as long as they get their kickbacks for making it happen. I'm thinking concessions for being the deciding vote should not be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] treesapx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who "plays dirty" because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it's the leader doing it, not the voters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (3 children) What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 child) I don't know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist. Source: they keep electing Susan Collins permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago What does someone in Maine get out of this? Well, if you're a fascist... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security. permalink fedilink source parent [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Not sure I’d give much credit to susie on this one. It’s more than likely filling her pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's the answer right there. They're voting for her because they like that she's lining her own pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago (1 child) "I know who this is, but I don't know who that is. People I know must be better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This was why I was fucking bummed when Biden got into the Democratic primary in '19. Name recognition >>> Younger, better options. permalink fedilink source parent [–] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 months ago People are stupid. I call it the mitigating factor since so many things don't make sense until we include it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 42 points 6 months ago (3 children) I don't know the situation in Maine, but being a deciding vote usually means you get a lot of concessions. It's quite possible Maine residents get what they want from her via these concessions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] exaybachae@startrek.website 47 points 6 months ago* (1 child) So bribery. Maine residents are okay with immoral national politics, as long as they get their kickbacks for making it happen. I'm thinking concessions for being the deciding vote should not be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] treesapx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who "plays dirty" because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it's the leader doing it, not the voters. permalink fedilink source parent [–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (3 children) What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 child) I don't know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist. Source: they keep electing Susan Collins permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago What does someone in Maine get out of this? Well, if you're a fascist... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security. permalink fedilink source parent [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Not sure I’d give much credit to susie on this one. It’s more than likely filling her pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's the answer right there. They're voting for her because they like that she's lining her own pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 47 points 6 months ago* (1 child) So bribery. Maine residents are okay with immoral national politics, as long as they get their kickbacks for making it happen. I'm thinking concessions for being the deciding vote should not be a thing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] treesapx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who "plays dirty" because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it's the leader doing it, not the voters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] treesapx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago I remember reading a study years ago that said people are more likely to support a leader who "plays dirty" because 1) they figure other leaders are doing the same so they must level the playing field, and 2) they can turn a blind eye to the misdeeds because it's the leader doing it, not the voters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] antifa_ceo@lemmy.ml 23 points 6 months ago (3 children) What does someone in Maine get out of this? Maybe Collins is getting shit for it but the average person is getting fucked. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 child) I don't know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist. Source: they keep electing Susan Collins permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago What does someone in Maine get out of this? Well, if you're a fascist... permalink fedilink source parent [–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago (1 child) I don't know this bill specifically, but bills have a lot of weird unrelated shit tacked onto them. Sometimes that stuff is state-specific stuff. There have been lots of cases where senators have opposed a bill but changed their tune after something specifically for their state was added. They can then brag about these wins during primaries. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist. Source: they keep electing Susan Collins permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 6 months ago* (2 children) Maybe we're looking for nuance where there isn't any, and the majority of Maine residents are just hateful and racist. Source: they keep electing Susan Collins permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent [–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago I'd be surprised if there aren't candidates more hateful and racist on the primary ballot. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social -1 points 6 months ago (2 children) Maine residents are, as a whole, very nice people. Certainly a lot friendlier as a population than many other states I've spent time in. Calling them hateful and racist based purely on (by your own admission) their voting records is like saying the majority of US residents are MAGA because Trump got elected. Source: Previously lived there for 26 years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago Neat. I live in a Midwestern state, and people here are so nice and friendly there's an expression about it. We're also obviously hateful and racist though, because we keep voting for Trump and sending hateful, racist Republicans to Congress. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Klear@quokk.au 3 points 6 months ago (1 child) And? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 6 months ago You aren't even from here australian lol, just shut up and listen like you're supposed to permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago What does someone in Maine get out of this? Well, if you're a fascist... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago I don’t know, but Asheville NC got the Blue Ridge Parkway because their representative was the last vote needed for Social Security. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) Not sure I’d give much credit to susie on this one. It’s more than likely filling her pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's the answer right there. They're voting for her because they like that she's lining her own pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] bus_factor@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago (1 child) That's the answer right there. They're voting for her because they like that she's lining her own pockets. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] santa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] santa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 6 months ago I’m not suggesting residents of Maine are voting for her to line pockets. They seem to vote for her for whatever reason makes sense to them. She continues to believe certain people “have learned their lesson” and will do the honorable thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] I_Jedi@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago (1 child) "I know who this is, but I don't know who that is. People I know must be better." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This was why I was fucking bummed when Biden got into the Democratic primary in '19. Name recognition >>> Younger, better options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 1 point 6 months ago This was why I was fucking bummed when Biden got into the Democratic primary in '19. Name recognition >>> Younger, better options. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rushmonke@ttrpg.network 2 points 6 months ago People are stupid. I call it the mitigating factor since so many things don't make sense until we include it. permalink fedilink source parent