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I have spent hours looking through the files and some of the stories are absolutely disgusting. I am having such a hard time because so many citizens don't even know how awful they get and they aren't all even fully released... I am close to feeling like we need pitchforks, torches and shovels if this justice system won't actually do anything... He had a ranch where a witness wrote in saying there are TWO bodies located on the property and they haven't even reported that in the media. I'll link that one below too. It's just so... Horrible. We can't just pretend this doesn't exist... but idk what happens next for the United States and the world. It's not something a country just moves on from.

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00078198.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01249507.pdf

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[-] BranBucket@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

When you say this, I can’t help but wonder if you’ve seen firsthand the immense levels of anxiety in working-class, blue-collar families as the failures of this system become undeniable and they are indeed unable to understand exactly what to do about it.

I'm part of one of those families. I've lived among them my whole life. It's not a moral judgement, just an observation on human behavior. And I was talking about those in the suburbs more than my own neighborhood.

[-] orioler25@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Then you do get it to a degree, hopefully. This is moralistic though, the assertion that this reflects some natural human behaviour is as well. Suburbs are also not only home to the affluent, suburban sprawl has made them affordable and effective sites of working-poor isolation and precarity exactly because they have hindered the construction of high-density housing and are so difficult to survive in without a reliable flow of cash. If you've lived in communities of factory workers who, while tenuously secure, remember the 2008 Recession sharply, then you know what I mean when I say that there are liberals who understand that foundational systemic change is needed but do not have the time or energy to learn what that means in like terms to what socialist and anarchist theorists or activists use.

It really is unsatisfying to lose the option of discarding people in catharsis, but that is necessary to foster empowerment of workers who only have the tools they've been given.

[-] BranBucket@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Then you do get it to a degree, hopefully.

Look, so, I know I came across as dismissive in my first reply, but you're also coming across as really condescending. Not sure if you're aware, but if your intent is to reach out with empathy and understanding, you might want to consider that.

I get it. I've been reaching out to people for more than 30 years and watching them consistently go against their best interests for about the same amount of time. A little cynicism is natural.

I'm sure in a face to face we'd probably agree on most things, but this conversation doesn't feel productive. Thanks for taking the time to reply and good luck out there.

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