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Mumble literally still works. The last 20 years of UI design were a mistake, we must return to tradition!
Unfortunately Mumble doesn't allow for group video calls or screensharing. Personally I'd recommend Movim for people who require those additional features.
Really cool project. Unfortunately, in this day and age, not having a desktop and mobile app is really hard to sell. PWAs are just not the same.
Also, curious: hie compatible is this actually with the rest of the XMPP ecosystem? From the architecture description, movin sits between its frontend and an xmpp server. But if another user connects to that same xmpp server from a non-movin client, how mich are they able to see and do?
I'm generally only recommending Movim since it being a PWA allows it to be a one-stop-shop that functions well enough across any device universally, reducing complexity for the average user (which is critically important when on-boarding).
However, there are native applications that could be used instead, such as the desktop app Dino, which is compatible with Movim's group video calls. Unfortunately it is not yet able to screenshare.
The native Mobile apps tend to be lagging behind with group call support. Conversations/Cheogram/Monocles can all do 1-to-1 audio and video calls, but cannot screenshare or join group calls yet.
Text chat and file/image sharing is 100% compatible across all clients.
If Movim is able to attract enough Discord refugees, and thus increase funding (it currently receives $43 a month from patreon, plus small grants from foundations like NLnet), it would likely be able to create a native version of the app for desktop/mobile.
I do get it, esp. because it significantly reduces development efforts required. I've just personally never liked them, and I suspect I'm not alone in this.
Ah, that's good to know, thank you!
ouch.
I'm with you on that, but I've been willing to look past it since it checks every other box I have.
Monocles also does what Movim does, but with a native app on the phone.
You have personally used the monocles app from F-droid to have group video calls and shared your screen in a call?
AFAIK Monocles also hosts a Movim instance, which is separate from their mobile app (The mobile app is a fork of Conversations with some additions from Cheogram and Blabber).
Are you sure you are not confusing the two? I ask because I can't find any mention of that ability to perform group calls on the Monocles website, nor on their Codeberg.
Conversations, which the Monocles mobile app is based on, still cannot perform group calls or group video calls as of 3 months ago, so I'd be a little surprised if Monocles independently added that ability without upstreaming it to Conversations.