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BIG (like Americans) IF TRUE (thelemmy.club)
submitted 6 months ago by to c/2northamerican4you@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 2 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Make a cheese burger or grilled cheese sandwich with American plastic and one with proper Dutch cheese and compare. No way in hell the American cheese (like in the picture) wins.

Just because you don't understand a food doesn't mean it's bad.

Just because you never had proper cheese means you don't know what you're talking about.

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  • [–] 19 points 6 months ago

    just because you've never had proper cheese

    Do you seriously think the only cheese that exists in the entirety of the US is kraft singles?

    I'm sure your cheese is delicious but I'm also positive I've had some cheese that's much better, and I got it in America. It's a big country.

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  • [–] 10 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I've had many different cheeses on my burgers. I'm sure I've even had a gouda burger. They can be fine if you're going for like a specialty burger with other non-standard toppings, but a straight-up cheeseburger? That's not what proper Dutch cheese is made for, so why would you use it like that?

    Different ingredients are better in different contexts.

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  • [–] -2 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    Gouda in the Netherlands is not the same as gouda from anywhere else

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    I don't get the downvotes. I've been to Netherlands and it's true.

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  • [–] 0 points 6 months ago

    Yeah it's not an opinion it's a fact. It's with a lot of food, that it's best in a certain country because of the climate. I've been all over the world and tasted a lot of Dutch cheeses produced overseas but they all taste different.

    Same with Heineken, in the Netherlands it tastes like piss but Heineken procured in other countries tastes like piss with plastic somehow. And it changes with every factory. Guinness also tastes best in Ireland. Red wines in the Netherlands taste worse than in France etc because of the climate. Best drink white when you're here.

    Next to that the production process isn't the same everywhere due to regulations which also has an effect on the taste of Gouda cheese. And cheese is made with mold which is very sensitive to climate. Different cows mean different milk taste. You can clone the strain and process but it's never the same.

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  • [–] 5 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    As much as I appreciate good cheeses, American Singles are suitable for cheeseburger and grilled cheese-applications on account of them containing sodium citrate, which gives them good melting properties.

    Well-tasting cheeses without sodium citrate tend to break when melted, which is not particularly desirable.

    You could of course make your own melt-appropriate cheese by mixing in sodium citrate with a shredded well-tasting cheese and melting the mixture.

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  • [+] -8 points 6 months ago (1 child)

    All the young Dutch cheeses, as well as white French cheeses (or from other EU countries) melt extremily well. Just the heavily riped yellow cheeses melt less well. If it's young and doesn't melt, it's probably not real cheese.

    Well-tasting cheeses without sodium citrate tend to break when melted

    I've never seen melted cheese break. How does that even work, it's melted so in a liquid form. Even when cooled down it should be flexible and stretchy. Even when it's overly riped cheese which eventually melted (which it should, with a lot of patience) and cooled down should be more rubber-like than break.

    When you think those American cheeses are perfect for their melting properties, you clearly dont have proper cheese alternatives as all young cheeses should melt flawlessly.

    But the chance you don't have good alternatives is highly likely. I've traveled the world a lot and most Dutch cheeses I ate abroad were terrible. Even the craft cheeses were much worse than the plain mediocre quality supermarket factory cheeses here in NL. Even when I went to the UK, while the British themselves can make some very nice cheeses. But the Dutch cheeses they had were basically plastic, and indeed with barely any melting properties.

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