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it's not actually like email (thelemmy.club)
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Brociopathic Mendencies (@jackdaw_ruiz@normal.style) says "i am no longer saying the fediverse is like email. from now on the fediverse is a lot that turkish neighborhood of uncompleted mini-castles. it was supposed to be one beautiful-but-unrealistic thing, and instead it's a different broken-and-hilarious thing, and if anyone lives there you have to assume they were driven into the hills for being unable to exist in polite society.". The post is illustrated by a photo of that neighbourhood
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[–] 3 points 7 months ago* (17 children)

"Broken" is hyperbole. Maybe I shouldn't have said that. It's just newer and still in the process of building a lot of features. But it's also got things going on under the hood that make me lean to hyperbole just because I personally wouldn't use social media that did that.

I don't know how to code or anything, I just eavesdrop stuff I'm interested in and often repeat things without verifying. But this was the convo I was looking at when I said, ehh maybe I won't make a piefed alt for anything. https://lemmy.world/post/42299745

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (15 children)

    Some of this is misinformation in that most of it can be turned off, and some of the functions will change as it develops.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (14 children)

    Can little users like me turn it off or do comm operators do that?

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

    Every function there is admin controlled, so it's referring to admin panel controls.

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  • [–] 0 points 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Okay, yeah so it being possible to turn it off wouldn't really matter much to someone like me. It might as well just be always on.

    Not that this is a sweeping indictment of piefed or anything. I'm sure all these features in concert are going to result in a unique experience, which is valuable anyway. Sorry for using statements like "it's broken", that was kind of shitty of me

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (9 children)

    Little users like you are already using a Lemmy instance as it is configured.

    A Lemmy admin can

    • block any community they want from showing up on their instance
    • block a whole instance from communicating with their instance
    • ban every single user as they see fit

    Regarding the post you linked above, most of the controls can indeed be disabled, and they are disabled by default: https://piefed.zip/c/fediverse/p/1005977/piefed-admin-settings-that-allow-to-enable-or-disable-content-filters-they-are-disabled-by#post_replies

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (8 children)

    That's kind of the baseline for consenting to use social media though. I have hangups about unspoken tools for suppressing content. Which, I don't think the instance I am currently on has. Not that I can tell yet if it did. It could be as you say, that there are tools currently on sopuli to do that and I just don't know because they're not being used.

    But nobody has pointed them out and since this is all open source I assume somebody here would

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  • [–] 2 points 7 months ago* (3 children)

    Well, I'll give you one example. Piefed has tools designed to suppress new AI posters. I don't know if other instances use it - probably not, but Piefed.social does use this. Can it get it wrong and incorrectly alert us to users who are not using AI? Absolutely. Does this bother you? Legitimately curious.

    I imagine every instance has the capacity to turn some cogs to censor content, but will choose not to. Sopuli for itself absolutely is blocking some instances though.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago* (2 children)

    Sure, that does sound good actually. I probably would be bothered by it if my autistic ass managed to trigger it though, which has happened often before in other places. But that's a good point, I guess something like that working correctly would be entirely dependent on people not knowing how it works.

    Wow that's actually kind of embarrassing that I don't even know which instances sopuli is blocking. I will go look.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (3 children)

    A few Lemmy instances have automod bots that remove content automatically according to baselines set by the admins.

    There is no way to know if an instance is running an automod except when it acts.

    Sopuli does not use one as far as I know, but Piefed instances like piefed.zip don't either.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (2 children)

    Gross. Glad most of Fediverse is still small enough that it's feasible to mod manually with small teams. I'll keep watching piefed development though. .zip sounds interesting if they stay hands off with that kind of stuff

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (1 child)

    To be fair, if a community is active enough, it makes sense to have an autobot in place, mods can't spend 24/7 monitoring the community.

    There are spammers who regularly register and post links to whatever they are advertising.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago*

    Probably true. I like to think that's the good use case for downvotes but I know Fediverse is trying to get away from that a little.

    I also forget that most instances don't have manually approved registration Come to think of it I don't suppose sopuli did. It would help, spammers are everywhere but they tend to avoid having to exert effort over many repetitions of a grift attempt

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