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[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Hard to answer in concrete terms a question I don't know the answer to. Like I said I am not an expert in the organization of the CPC and the levels of democratic participation its members have. Instead of debating whether or not their system is capitalist, which we clearly have opinions on that aren't reconcilable through short internet argumentation, I asked you to compare the most basic features of their system to your own and decide which you considered more democratic (or more proletarian). I didn't want to spend the hours of research it would take to answer you question in full because I didn't and still do not consider it worth it.

I disagree with your statement that the CPC is not Marxist and considering their stated position is that they are, the burden of proof is on you here. I do consider them somewhat revisionist but considering their success and the size of their society I think its uncouth for me, a westerner from a country with 0 successful marxist projects to criticize them harshly. I take the wait and see approach. So far it has worked out. It doesn't make sense for a capitalist state to encourage democratic participation nor does it make sense for them to prioritize political education as China very clearly does. You can get a degree in marxist political economy, many Chinese people do this and as someone who has spoken about the subject with them, they understand it VERY well.

You should really read state and revolution if you haven't already. Your belief that marxism-leninism relies on the bureaucratic class dissolving itself and handing power back to the proletariat indicates that you have not or atleast didn't understand it.

capitalist-socialist ideology

This is a nonsense term

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