โฒ 615 โผ Real Struggle ๐ (thelemmy.club) submitted 7 months ago by Sine_Fine_Belli@lemmy.world to c/programmer_humor@programming.dev 35 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/63140296
[โ] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) I didn't say management wasn't needed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) Okay, well you find someone competent enough to deal with the tech and get paid less than the engineers ๐คฃ. The rates are the rates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) I could point out that I didn't say they should be paid less, either, but my heart isn't in it. I hope you have a good day doing whatever that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.ย You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.ย permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 point 7 months ago Lots of managers don't understand the tech, and an outright majority have no way of measuring productivity beyond in-seat time, which is supposed to be their whole job. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago (2 children) Okay, well you find someone competent enough to deal with the tech and get paid less than the engineers ๐คฃ. The rates are the rates. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [โ] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) I could point out that I didn't say they should be paid less, either, but my heart isn't in it. I hope you have a good day doing whatever that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.ย You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.ย permalink fedilink source parent [โ] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 point 7 months ago Lots of managers don't understand the tech, and an outright majority have no way of measuring productivity beyond in-seat time, which is supposed to be their whole job. permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 9 points 7 months ago (1 child) I could point out that I didn't say they should be paid less, either, but my heart isn't in it. I hope you have a good day doing whatever that is. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.ย You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.ย permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 7 months ago Then go find them at the same rate. Do it.ย You can't, because it's an absurdly competitive market and most engineers are happy to skip it for equal or similar pay. You get what you pay for and at the same rate you typically get someone good at management or tech not both. This people go demand 300k from later companies posting more. And they'll get paid more than the engineers because they are harder to find.ย permalink fedilink source parent
[โ] CanadaPlus@futurology.today 1 point 7 months ago Lots of managers don't understand the tech, and an outright majority have no way of measuring productivity beyond in-seat time, which is supposed to be their whole job. permalink fedilink source parent