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Adobe backlash is getting louder — time to escape proprietary creative tools? (thelemmy.club)
submitted 8 months ago by [M] to c/boycottus@lemmy.ca
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Bugs bunny in suit I wish adobe a very pleasant downfall. The stock drops.
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[–] 18 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (24 children)

CEO is maga who made statements on protons official accounts lobbying against Democrats because their corporate interests are bad for big tech and they (corporate Democrats ) all need to be thrown out, so MAGA is their stance.

They backpedaled hard and pretended it was a mistake. Their reasoning that Democrats are bad for big tech is because none of them showed up to their lobbying event for "anti-trust" laws, but JD Vance did.

Edit: to all the maga bots: Google is free. Fuck off with your "gotcha" bullshit. https://archive.ph/2025.01.15-162500/https://www.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/1i1zjgn/so_that_happened/m7a91fs/

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    CEO is maga

    Oh, JFC, can we stop with this bullshit already?

    "CEO is maga" is the equivalent of going: "Lulzagna wants to force everybody on the planet to only eat lasagna and nothing else, because he tweeted 'I like lasagna' once".

    Context:

    Trump was still in his "I hate social media because social media won't force users to praise me" phase. He appointed a person known to be very pro-consumer and very anti big-tech to an important job at the DOJ. Democrat accounts defaulted to "whatever Trump does is bad" and started shitting on the pick. Proton CEO wrote:

    Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

    Which is all literally just stating facts. The only opinion here is that the pick is good - which, from the standpoint of a company that supports privacy and consumers - makes sense.

    Here's a deeper analysis, including a dive into those antitrust actions started by Trump 1.0, and projects that Proton helps financially.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    That's not what I'm referring to. You seen ignorant to their other comments.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Then please provide details or links or something, because as someone who's trying to figure out what's going on here, you're doing more arguing than explaining.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    It's a bit shit of you to call me a maga bot just because I didn't know something.
    I don't go on reddit any more anyway.
    Thanks for the link, though, I'll have a look now.

    Edit: Wow, that's a bunch of crap from proton. I was thinking of switching to them. Crap.
    I agree that corporate capture of dems is real, but to paint the magats as being for the little guy is insane!

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    I agree that corporate capture of dems is real, but to paint the magats as being for the little guy is insane!

    You have to take the timeline into consideration.

    It was all written before Trump 2.0. At that time, and specifically regarding tech, Republicans had much more to offer the "little guy" than Democrats.

    Was it completely accidental, just because Trump was throwing a hissy fit? Yes. Did it end as soon as the big tech people started throwing money and praise at him? Also yes. But both of those things happened after the tweets and the comments were posted.

    Just read this. It's a full analysis of not only the CEO's comments, but also of what Proton does in general. They do not support Republicans.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Oh, please, don't let me stop you from elaborating!

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (1 child)
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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    He made a statement praising trump for his security pick. To me he was just pandering to trump so they aren't on trumps radar about encrypted software.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    They couldn't give less of a shit about Trump or his radar - they're based in Switzerland.

    He literally only said that someone who is famous for being anti big-tech, and pro consumer is a good pick, because Proton are anti big-tech, and pro consumer.

    How this grew to all this nonsense people write these days is a fucking mystery to me...

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    If they want to business in the USA hey have to pander to the panzshitter

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    First of all, that doesn't matter to us, from the EU.

    Secondly, read this.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    Read it before, seem normal. It mentions info about who contacts the user, and elsewhere something about IP and logs. But if there business operating model is true they have no keys they can decrypt with. If they do them proton is no different tjam google

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (3 children)

    Even if his cabinet pick is anti big-tech and pro consumer, the administration couldn't be further from that (super buds with Palantir and their fix for health care is... A trump website)

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    The comment was made in a year before Trump 2.0, at which point they weren't best buds with big tech, quite the opposite, because Trump was at the tail end of throwing a hissy fit against big tech.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Oh I do recall him mucking about with Google and Apple and Meta, but with how fickle that man is, that's hardly a point for anti big-tech

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    How do you mean? How is starting a bunch of anti-trust and pro-consumer "hardly a point for anti big-tech"?

    The facts are these: Republicans, under Trump, started these processes. Democrats mostly opposed them, because they were defaulting to "Trump = bad".

    The apolitical stance of Proton means that they don't do that defaulting. If Republicans do something good for privacy, anonymity (lol), or consumers, Proton will approve. If Dems do the same - proton will approve. If Greens (or whatever the pseudo "third party" calls itself) does it - Proton will approve.

    That's all there is to it.

    But we now live in times where people assume approving of "something XYZ did", automatically means "approving of XYZ", which is stupid, reductive, and destructive.

    For example, it leads otherwise sensible people to boycott an excellent product, just because its CEO said "the appointment of someone famously anti big-tech to a high anti-trust position in the DOJ is a good thing".

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    No??? The CEO of Proton only stated that he liked the pick for Attorney General at the DoJ by the White House I believe, since the person had a track record fighting Big Tech. They have never taken any political side and clarified that they do not endorse any political party. They have not and never donated to any political party or praised Trump in any other sense. You're insane if you think that already qualifies as MAGA.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Uh, no, that's not what I'm referring to. They made comments on reddit and I think other platforms. They deleted them after pushback.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Can you give me a reference to a screenshot or something because I've never heard of it. The pushback was always because of him praising the pick for DoJ Attorney General by Trump.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago

    Well don't you think the one making the claim should back it up? The statement was really naive thinking reps wouldn't cash out to corporate money and I don't think they are better in any way even back then. But the corporate democrats are also really holding the party back. I'm annoyed that they would take such a political stance on an official account but they paddled back and I wouldn't call someone MAGA for just that statement.

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