He operates like any other big capitalist though, even if he paid higher taxes he'd still benefit from the exploitation of workers and rent extraction, etc. This is a brilliant PR move by him, not a show of not being aligned with his class. Hell, he said he'd donate his wealth to charity on his death, but you know which charity he picked?
You say it's a great PR move from him, but last I checked he has "fuck you" money so I'm not sure I buy that. If he doesn't mean it there would be no real benefit for him to say it. I don't think he cares that I just said he's less bad than those others pictured.
You bringing it up like a positive points to it being excellent PR. If he seriously didn't like benefiting from acting like a capitalist he'd just... stop.
He picked the Gates Foundation. Bill Gates is in the files and was a friend of Epstein.
Alright. Yeah, no one is saying billionaires can be great.
I was just pointing out he's clearly advocated against his own class, much contradicting his inclusion in this meme. Whether it was "excellent PR" or not doesn't really matter, considering he could have easily not advocated for taxing himself more and either way it actually has no real impact on his life. Especially if you believe there's nothing to him besides a cynical greedy monster.
I'd argue advocating for taxation isn't really threatening to his own class. He'd be a class traitor if he advocated for workers' democracy, better working rights, stronger unions, no exploitation of foreign workers, etc.
The issue isn't that taxes are too low for the rich (even though they are), the issue is that they exploit us (both domestically and internationally) and get richer from owning rather than working, and that anything that we do to challenge this arrangement can get us killed.
You guys always do the thing that frustrated 13 year olds do when you're argued with, where you throw up your hands and go "ugh, fine, sure, (insert strawman here), are you happy?"
I think ml users are the ones that always behave the same way. This user wouldn't just let me make a fair point, they kept talking down to me and pretending I'm saying some shit I'm not, nor care about.
Now you're projecting your own actions onto an entire instance, despite the fact that we're only having this conversation because you were pretending that someone was saying something they weren't.
Not what I said. I argued he's not a class traitor, which is factually true. I also elaborated why. I'm uninterested in making moral judgements on billionaires.
He's still a billionaire, no one becomes a billionaire working 9-5 everyday like a common person. Remember, every cent of profit is an unrealized cent of worker's wages.
I apologize then, it's just that it's a common talking point to say someone like Buffett isn't as bad because of paying taxes or similar. Typically by neo-liberal types as justification that there are "good billionaires."
Oh I was referencing Laika studios or what it's called. They made Kubo And The Two Strings. It's headed by a billionaire who inherited his fortune. He uses it to make art. They've made a fair amount of stop motion movies that didn't return big bucks, but he just cares about the art.
Warren Buffett has argued for rich people paying higher taxes for years, so I'm not sure he is the best example for this meme.
Taxes are not going to abolish the conditions that allow for the exploitation of labor.
He operates like any other big capitalist though, even if he paid higher taxes he'd still benefit from the exploitation of workers and rent extraction, etc. This is a brilliant PR move by him, not a show of not being aligned with his class. Hell, he said he'd donate his wealth to charity on his death, but you know which charity he picked?
Oh, is it his own that his children are a part of so they get a huge tax write off so they don't have to pay anything on his estate?
You say it's a great PR move from him, but last I checked he has "fuck you" money so I'm not sure I buy that. If he doesn't mean it there would be no real benefit for him to say it. I don't think he cares that I just said he's less bad than those others pictured.
No idea.
You bringing it up like a positive points to it being excellent PR. If he seriously didn't like benefiting from acting like a capitalist he'd just... stop.
He picked the Gates Foundation. Bill Gates is in the files and was a friend of Epstein.
Alright. Yeah, no one is saying billionaires can be great.
I was just pointing out he's clearly advocated against his own class, much contradicting his inclusion in this meme. Whether it was "excellent PR" or not doesn't really matter, considering he could have easily not advocated for taxing himself more and either way it actually has no real impact on his life. Especially if you believe there's nothing to him besides a cynical greedy monster.
I'd argue advocating for taxation isn't really threatening to his own class. He'd be a class traitor if he advocated for workers' democracy, better working rights, stronger unions, no exploitation of foreign workers, etc.
The issue isn't that taxes are too low for the rich (even though they are), the issue is that they exploit us (both domestically and internationally) and get richer from owning rather than working, and that anything that we do to challenge this arrangement can get us killed.
Ok great. He is the typical billionaire and there is no gradation. Everything is binary.
You guys always do the thing that frustrated 13 year olds do when you're argued with, where you throw up your hands and go "ugh, fine, sure, (insert strawman here), are you happy?"
I think ml users are the ones that always behave the same way. This user wouldn't just let me make a fair point, they kept talking down to me and pretending I'm saying some shit I'm not, nor care about.
Now you're projecting your own actions onto an entire instance, despite the fact that we're only having this conversation because you were pretending that someone was saying something they weren't.
Not what I said. I argued he's not a class traitor, which is factually true. I also elaborated why. I'm uninterested in making moral judgements on billionaires.
He's still a billionaire, no one becomes a billionaire working 9-5 everyday like a common person. Remember, every cent of profit is an unrealized cent of worker's wages.
No one here has disputed that. Why can people not understand nuance?
I apologize then, it's just that it's a common talking point to say someone like Buffett isn't as bad because of paying taxes or similar. Typically by neo-liberal types as justification that there are "good billionaires."
I am saying he's not as bad. Doesn't make him good.
Like with Laika's owner, he's nearer the bottom of the list of ones that needs to go.
Lots of soviet space dogs survived, fun fact!
Oh I was referencing Laika studios or what it's called. They made Kubo And The Two Strings. It's headed by a billionaire who inherited his fortune. He uses it to make art. They've made a fair amount of stop motion movies that didn't return big bucks, but he just cares about the art.
Oh! Misunderstood completely, haha!
I thought of the space dog too lmao thanks for sharing