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Parenti haters are coping hard after their pro US state Anarchist professor got caught in the didler's list. (thelemmy.club)
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[–] 18 points 6 months ago (1 child)

Let's define "tankie" as a Marxist-Leninist who emphasizes a vanguard party that makes dictates for a whole country's economy, approves of the silencing of dissent, and excuses the practice of using force to keep an alliance together and ideologically coherent.

Wouldn't you think that such a person would naturally seek out positions of power, and have the guile and discipline to mask their intentions until they achieved those positions, so as to be more effective? Certainly it should be possible, 70 years after Joseph McCarthy, to imagine a ML making their way into a prominent position.

Also, where are the Jeffrey Epsteins of Cuba, Vietnam, and China? I left out the other two because Laos is underdocumented and North Korea is opaque. This should be easy for any serious anti-tankie to give examples of.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 months ago (1 child)

    Wouldn’t you think that such a person would naturally seek out positions of power

    You've never heard of Joseph Stalin?

    Also, where are the Jeffrey Epsteins of Cuba, Vietnam, and China

    Well, Jeffrey Epstein was a blackmailer who used his Island to gather Kompromat on people. In that regard, the communist equivalent would be the KGB. If you mean in regards to using power to achieve sex, there were historically large numbers of corrupt lower party officials in China with mistresses' prior to reforms. If you mean specifically raping kids, then Mao Zedong was alleged to fuck 14 year olds.

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  • [–] 6 points 6 months ago*

    You're losing track of your argument. No one was talking about the period from 1899-1953 (Stalin's activist era), we were talking about 1991-2018 (the time that Epstein was influential), or possibly as early as 1981 when the neoliberal era came into full swing. Whether tankies ever get into positions of power is not the question, it would be a rather stupid one. The question is why we see radlibs and neocons and fascists in the Epstein connections, but not tankies.

    ImmortalInfo is saying that "tankies would otherwise be on the Epstein flight logs, but they were denied access to that level of power". I am saying that "a tankie is someone who is better than average at making their way into power", and therefore, anyone who claims that tankies are absent from any sampling of the elite class needs to explain why. There is a massive H0 that most of the people in these comments are referring to, and you'll need to be able to disprove it.

    Don't lose your train of thought in your eagerness to pull out 8th-grade ideological mantras like "Stalin and Mao were bad" as circular arguments. The way to truth is critically examining what's there, and using your logic without feeling the need to tip the scales one way or another.

    Are there Epstein-style procurement rings in ML-governed countries or aren't there? And what do you suppose is the mechanism for why tankies don't show up on the flight logs or in the emails, in light of my point of how they should be able to get into those circles if they wanted to?

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