▲ 232 ▼ What Happens to Linux After Linus Torvalds? We Finally Have the Answer to This Uncomfortable Question (itsfoss.com) submitted 8 months ago by costalfy@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev 42 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[+] Linktank@lemmy.today -66 points 8 months ago (22 children) Maybe a third, actually good OS will finally appear? permalink fedilink source hideshow 22 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (13 children) Wrong space for that, buddy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -30 points 8 months ago (12 children) Y'all can disagree all you want. It's still doody. The only reason people are flocking to it is because windows is even more shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (11 children) Is it doody or are you just technologically challenged? Based on your double-down I think I might know the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -16 points 8 months ago (10 children) I've been using computers and various operating systems since the early 90s. Trying to use linux today and most things still seem to require three tutorials to do basic things like install files. It's just not easy to use. I could never recommend it to somebody who is new or even newer to computers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent [+] chromeleon@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago Windows mac linux It has, yes permalink fedilink source parent [–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago Since Linux is not an operating system, but the kernel, I think the guy means: Gentoo Arch Linux But hey! I don’t like Debian, but it’s good, quite a lot of people like it Fedora is good either. I like it. People don’t like corporate influence, but hey, it’s good, isn’t it? I’ve heard good things of Bazzite (a repacked Fedora, isn’t it?). Also, Pop_OS! looks promising too, especially with their recent Cosmic Desktop. Personally, I despise Mint (especially the Ubuntu version, lol, shit based on shit, sorry everyone) but many people like it, so it’s not as shitty as I believe it is. Em, Ubuntu … anyone uses it? I’ve seen folks using it as a server OS. I have no idea, perhaps that’s not incompetence, but there are use cases. So yeah, still more than three. I’ve heard BSDs are quite good, but maybe not for everyone, especially as desktops. Yet, I’ve heard good things about them. Alpine. Even on a desktop, people use it. And if you like SBCs, I think DietPi is a great project, Armbian is a great effort too. So… I don’t know man. We have more than three, our issue is with the opposite, we have too many. Someone uses Slackware even. Others Linux from scratch. There are Nix people. I should have missed someone. But as I’ve been saying, we have too many already. permalink fedilink source parent [–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (3 children) It already exists, it's called OpenBSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago i too love fish linux permalink fedilink source parent [–] sprack@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Same issue there. What happens when Theo dies? permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago That's a pretty weird take given that OpenBSD is way behind Linux permalink fedilink source parent [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago Sure, and maybe Microslop will one day put the acid down. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago (13 children) Wrong space for that, buddy. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -30 points 8 months ago (12 children) Y'all can disagree all you want. It's still doody. The only reason people are flocking to it is because windows is even more shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (11 children) Is it doody or are you just technologically challenged? Based on your double-down I think I might know the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -16 points 8 months ago (10 children) I've been using computers and various operating systems since the early 90s. Trying to use linux today and most things still seem to require three tutorials to do basic things like install files. It's just not easy to use. I could never recommend it to somebody who is new or even newer to computers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Linktank@lemmy.today -30 points 8 months ago (12 children) Y'all can disagree all you want. It's still doody. The only reason people are flocking to it is because windows is even more shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] OR3X@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (11 children) Is it doody or are you just technologically challenged? Based on your double-down I think I might know the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -16 points 8 months ago (10 children) I've been using computers and various operating systems since the early 90s. Trying to use linux today and most things still seem to require three tutorials to do basic things like install files. It's just not easy to use. I could never recommend it to somebody who is new or even newer to computers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] OR3X@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago (11 children) Is it doody or are you just technologically challenged? Based on your double-down I think I might know the answer. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -16 points 8 months ago (10 children) I've been using computers and various operating systems since the early 90s. Trying to use linux today and most things still seem to require three tutorials to do basic things like install files. It's just not easy to use. I could never recommend it to somebody who is new or even newer to computers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Linktank@lemmy.today -16 points 8 months ago (10 children) I've been using computers and various operating systems since the early 90s. Trying to use linux today and most things still seem to require three tutorials to do basic things like install files. It's just not easy to use. I could never recommend it to somebody who is new or even newer to computers. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent [–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent [–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] snowykitty@piefed.blahaj.zone 14 points 8 months ago my grandma uses it just fine... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago (4 children) It is though? Is the bar so low that simply having to read, comprehend and follow instructions is disqualifying? Maybe you need to abandon desktop computing and go purchase an iPad permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 point 8 months ago You forgot having to be flexible enough to not have any particular workflow that works for you personally. Linux is great if you don't need to use anything that doesn't have a comparable equivalent. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Linktank@lemmy.today -9 points 8 months ago (2 children) Another reason not to like linux, the douchebag holier than though user base. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent [–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] k0e3@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago But didn't you learn to use your your favourite OS at one point in your life?? How is that any different? Did you never learn a single thing from someone else? You have to learn to ride a bike and drive a car. Are those crap vehicles too? It's not "holier than thou," when your argument is full of holes (hehe). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] _Nico198X_@europe.pub 4 points 8 months ago but you're the one in here acting like a holier than thou douchebag permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 5 points 8 months ago If you're using vague, borderline nonsensical phrases like "install files" when trying to find out how to do things that might go some way towards explaining it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Avicenna@programming.dev 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) There are flavours of linux that allow you to just click and install compatible file types. You can easily use Ubuntu your whole life without touching the terminal. Using the terminal allows you to do certain things much faster and easier but that is a skill you need to train if you want to use it. If you are however talking about trying to run an originally windows native game in linux, then that might turn out to be an advanced problem. So you need to be patient and likely try couple different solutions (starting with the most recent dated one and paying attention to version numbers etc). It might even turn out to be impossible. That is an inescapable consequence of using a non main stream OS, not a problem of the OS itself. But given how the gaming world is shifting to linux, that might change in future and windows users (if any) might start complaining about how hard it is to port games to windows. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] khleedril@cyberplace.social -5 points 8 months ago (1 child) @Linktank @OR3X Wow, you're rubbish. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 8 months ago Good one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] gustofwind@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago Windows mac linux It has, yes permalink fedilink source parent
[–] wltr@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 8 months ago Since Linux is not an operating system, but the kernel, I think the guy means: Gentoo Arch Linux But hey! I don’t like Debian, but it’s good, quite a lot of people like it Fedora is good either. I like it. People don’t like corporate influence, but hey, it’s good, isn’t it? I’ve heard good things of Bazzite (a repacked Fedora, isn’t it?). Also, Pop_OS! looks promising too, especially with their recent Cosmic Desktop. Personally, I despise Mint (especially the Ubuntu version, lol, shit based on shit, sorry everyone) but many people like it, so it’s not as shitty as I believe it is. Em, Ubuntu … anyone uses it? I’ve seen folks using it as a server OS. I have no idea, perhaps that’s not incompetence, but there are use cases. So yeah, still more than three. I’ve heard BSDs are quite good, but maybe not for everyone, especially as desktops. Yet, I’ve heard good things about them. Alpine. Even on a desktop, people use it. And if you like SBCs, I think DietPi is a great project, Armbian is a great effort too. So… I don’t know man. We have more than three, our issue is with the opposite, we have too many. Someone uses Slackware even. Others Linux from scratch. There are Nix people. I should have missed someone. But as I’ve been saying, we have too many already. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 8 months ago (3 children) It already exists, it's called OpenBSD. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Marty_TF@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago i too love fish linux permalink fedilink source parent [–] sprack@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Same issue there. What happens when Theo dies? permalink fedilink source parent [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago That's a pretty weird take given that OpenBSD is way behind Linux permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sprack@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago Same issue there. What happens when Theo dies? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago That's a pretty weird take given that OpenBSD is way behind Linux permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 8 months ago Sure, and maybe Microslop will one day put the acid down. permalink fedilink source parent