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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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I joined reddit on the tailwind, so it was all echo chamber, we hate newcomers, gatekeeping, automod frenzy, too many rulebreakers, too many rules, etc I could be wrong, but thats what I imagine it used to be like.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's still not an attack. If you just keep assuming everything someone says to you is a personal affront, nothing they say matters. The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer. You'll just twist it all into veiled insults.

Even when - as in that linked thread - you fucking plainly expressed confusion, and had it politely dispelled.

You maintained your initial conclusion in spite of that. I am now asking: what the fuck was I supposed to say, instead? What did you want out of that interaction? Was there any combination of words in the English language, that would have satisfied you, or does any reply get labeled as "bitching?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure. This isn't an attack. Totally not insulting.

You understand that idiom, but not ‘go on, make my day?’ Even when it’s patiently explained to you?

It was calling me stupid about something that had nothing to do with the topic of the thread.

Maybe you need to work on your interpersonal skills if you think that isn't an attack.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Stupid is an essentialist insult. I'm describing behavior. Not knowing something is fine. Being offended by the explanation is baffling.

You demonstrably expected an explanation for what I said. Which I gave. And that somehow made you act even more hostile and defensive.

Third time: what else am I supposed to say?

If there is some way to deal with this, that you would not consider degrading - what is it?

if there is no way someone can question your comments, that you wouldn't consider a personal insult - how would anyone communicate with you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Deal with what? You're the only one here who gives a shit about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Says user incensed by an alleged attack.

You don't know what you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Please quote me being 'incensed' and explain how you could figure out my emotional state from text. This should be interesting.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I couldn't prove the sky is blue, if you're going to be hostile to any text under my username.

You are complaining about me insulting you. Which never happened. Substitute whatever summary of that is dry enough; that is the problem and I am asking you what else you wanted.

Jesus Christ, take yes for an answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you aren't. That's the problem. You could just hit Show Context a few times, and see what I'm talking about, where you scoffed at the suggestion I hadn't insulted you. Or you could remember when you wrote that, like, an hour ago. But you're making extremely specific demands as if the exact word I used must be the exact word you used, or else I'm completely wrong about everything.

How dare I say you say I said a thing, just because that's plainly what happened.

More to the point - how dare I project any sort of internal state onto you, in this discussion of how you have done exactly that to me.

I am telling you there was no insult in answering your comments directly and accurately. You cannot believe that. And that inability is somehow my fault. Aaand asking how I could do better is just further insult, and also my fault.

The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I guess you lied when you said I was incensed. I wonder why you lied?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Insulting me won't make a lie true. Sorry. If you didn't lie, you can quote me. But I'm pretty sure you lied.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

'You are not being intellectually honest.'

'When did I say that?'

'Incorrect.'

Again, because I can't trust you to recognize the concept: paraphrasing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope. You said I was incensed. But you had no evidence to that effect. It was a lie. That's okay, lots of people lie.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like you saying I insulted you?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trying to change the subject will not make your lie true either, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the root subject. It's the thing you were so not-incensed about.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's great, but I'm really only interested in talking about your lie. You're welcome to explain why you lied if you ever admit to it. I'll be interested in that. Otherwise, I'm just going to continue to mostly ignore anything else you have to say. Especially the long posts. Not going to read those at all. Not when they could be lies too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hypocrisy, then. Grand.

Worthless.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Right, because you're the protagonist of reality. Your lies don't count. Even if they're to a mod.

But someone saying you were offended by an imaginary insult, well, stop the presses.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Didn't read that. In fact, I'm just not planning on reading anything else from you and will respond to all future posts with the word 'strawberry.' That should amuse me.