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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago (3 children)

That's my point. "F" should be labiodental, "ph" should be bilabial. It's not the "accepted" way, that phoneme doesn't really exist in English, but it should.

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[–] kometes@lemmy.world 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

Interesting. Can you record yourself saying "photograph" with two bilabial [Φ]s?

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 8 months ago

Not really keen on sharing my voice online. It sounds almost identical, just a little softer. You can try it yourself: wherever there's a "ph", put your lips together as if it were a "p", then separate them the tiniest bit and push air through like an "f".

Kinda like you're blowing off soup, but without pursing your lips. I think it's basically like the embouchure for a single reed woodwind.

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[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 1 point 8 months ago*

the voiced bilabial fricative is /m/

how do you make an /f/ sound- voiced or not - with your lips closed?

edit: nvm, I watched the video, it's for non-english speakers and doesn't really work without releasing into a vowel.

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