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ya, but did she really flip burgers...? (thelemmy.club)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/agedlikemilk@sh.itjust.works
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[–] 30 points 8 months ago (43 children)

Purists couldn't vote for the lesser of two evils. The choice was: vote for genocide or vote for genocide+even more horrible shit. Somehow genocide+even more horrible shit seemed more appealing.

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago

    There was this whole argument that vote for genocide or vote for genocide+even more horrible shit was going to turn people off from voting. We now know that definitely happened. Letting that choice run was a pretty guaranteed losing strategy. Anyone with knowledge of American electoral politics knows voter turnoff = Democratic Loss, Republican Victory.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (13 children)

    Kamala ran a horrible campaign. Blaming voters isnt the way

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (10 children)

    Oh god no. No no no no NO No, fuck that right off.
    The voters ARE too blame.

    I mean, yeah, I would agree with you if tRUMP had never been in office before AND was somewhat competent in his business dealings, or wasn't obviously in the pocket of putin.

    However, that orange thing did a terrible job in his first term, just terrible. And anyone with even the slightest resemblance of intelligence could see he was only running again to stop the court cases, etc, and buy more time to keep him out of prison.

    It really didn't/doesn't matter about her campaign when the person running against her is obviously:
    Was wholly incompetent just a few years before.
    Racist.
    Said he was going to be a dictator from the first day.
    Is a confirmed rapist. With loads of other assault cases behind him.
    Best friend to Jeffery Epstein who they both said enjoyed "wonderful secrets" together...
    Convicted criminal.
    Numerous bankruptcies.
    Numerous fines for dodgy shit (stealing from children's charities etc)
    Russian money etc etc.
    Quite obviously corrupt in just about every way. Etc etc etc etc etc.
    These are the things off the top of my head, there's hundreds of other shit he's pulled.

    So, YES, it was down to all the voters.
    Yes, his voters are definitely to blame. But everyone who could vote but didn't, or protest voted have also enabled this shit to happen so they are to definitely, definitely to blame.

    Any people who could have voted against him but didn't and are now trying to absolve themselves of any guilt then let me help you out. You won't, you can't. You are to blame.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    The problem wasn't Kamala or Trump. That's something coming from decades ago. The real problem is a party system where one of the parties wants to go full throttle to the right and the other party just wants to go slower. That's a recipe for disaster. Imagine if the Dems had elected Sanders instead of Hillary on the primaries. Trump wouldn't had have a change in hell to be elected and the policies would have steered the country to the left. 

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago

    Imagine if the Dems had elected Sanders instead of Hillary on the primaries.

    He lost. He literally lost the popular vote for the primaries.

    I respect the shit out of Sanders, but he isn't as popular as people on the internet like to think.

    We can't keep saying "what if" regarding candidates that lost the popular vote during primaries. They were never starters.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    Yes, completely agree that it has been coming for decades. The best time to fight it was decades ago. For this specific type of scum then the best time to fight it was in 2016.

    But that didn't happen. What happened was the orange child rapist got in in 2016, and fucked things up.
    Then was -very fucking slowly- convicted of numerous shit during bidens term. And was in the midst of the -also very late and slow- investigations for the stealing of top secret documents and treason stuff (plus other shit) when he said loads of stuff about being a dictator, and how he wouldn't need people votes again as things would be 'fixed' by them etc etc...AND people still decided to either vote for it, or not directly vote against it.

    It's pretty simple. A vote that wasn't used specifically against this disgusting narcissistic tangerine toddler was a vote that enabled him to do what he is doing right now. If the non voters and protest voters had done the decent thing then almost none of this would've happened.

    If the majority of people keep on voting for the most decent person then at some point things must get better.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    It's the lesser evil strategy. And it doesn't work.

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago* (5 children)

    Doing nothing and then voting/enabling narcissistic, child raping, mushy brained, confirmed rapist dictators is far worse.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (4 children)

    "Come to eat our tasteless food that stinks or you'll have to eat shit in the other restaurant" is not the best way to attract people to your cause. A lot of people stays at home if those are the options.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    So carry on doing nothing then, how's that working out?

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

    I'm from Spain. It could be much better and I hope it won't be worse. But at least there have left wing parties demanding the social democrats to lead to the left and the "vote us or else..." is losing power here.

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    Would you prefer to have your foot stepped on or be tortured to death?

    Americans fucking failed. If you think Kamala ran a horrible campaign, I direct your attention to the literal felon and literal rapist with two impeachments who said he had "concepts of plans" while telling people that Haitians were eating people's pets in Springfield and held rallies with his slogan of "TRUMP WAS RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING" displayed on banners hanging over the stage.

    This wasn't a confusing election. This was the easiest election of our lifetimes and maybe the easiest in the history of this country.

    Kamala didn't fail. Democrats didn't fail. The American people failed. Because the American people are, by and large, very dumb and easily manipulated by propaganda. Really, really dumb propaganda.

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (27 children)

    Please be satire

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (26 children)

    Little too real for ya eh?

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  • [+] -6 points 8 months ago (25 children)

    Just bafflingly ignorant and lowkey evil

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago (23 children)

    Cool. Thanks for letting me know you voted third party or not at all

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (22 children)

    Yeah I voted PSL instead of voting for fascism or fascism-lite

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  • [–] 9 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Congrats. There's blood on your hands

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  • [+] -8 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Oops, you've got it backwards- I'm dyslexic too, I get it. I didn't vote for a genocider actually

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  • [–] 10 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    You voted for extra genocide and every extra child that is now dead is your fault. Well done!

    At least you can sleep well at night sniffing your own farts while smugly pretending you're better than people who actually decided to try and do something to minimize genocide. Giving up isn't a virtue and your pathetic attempts at fake moral superiority are just as embarrassing and harmful as the people who are pretending Renee Good deserved to be shot. Fuck off Nazi enabler. You are weak trash who couldn't effectively participate in the easiest form of civic engagement because you don't have the mental capacity to see the world in anything other than black and white like evangelicals and Maga cultists do.

    Get blocked you milquetoast coward.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    This is wild

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    They're American liberals, don't put too much thought to it... They certainly don't.

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  • [+] 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (6 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    PSL votes accounted for 0.11% of the vote. 171,000 people electionwide. Across the entire nation.

    I get people are angry and want something smaller than them to attack, but the PSL and Uncommitted primary voters just didn't swing the election by a longshot.

    Like if the entire country's PSL voting bloc had moved to Michigan in 2024 they could have swung the election for Harris and got 15 electoral college votes. Which would again lose 2024 to Trump, just at 297-241 instead of 312-226. Because the electoral college completely ratfucks our presidential election process.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    You're trying to make an excuse after the fact for people who made a very stupid decision not knowing if their very stupid decision was going to be the deciding factor.

    The fact that it didn't end up mattering does not absolve them. It could very well matter next time they choose to make an incredibly stupid decision.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    Yeah I voted PSL

    God. So fucking stupid. Such an embarrassing thing to admit.

    FACT: The 3rd party candidate with the most votes in 2024 (not the PSL candidate) only received a HALF OF A SINGLE PERCENT of the total votes cast. Meaning no 3rd party candidate even stood the remotest chance of winning the presidency.

    So, how absolutely mindlessly stupid does one have to be to vote for a candidate that CANNOT under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES win? Especially when we're in a situation where a felon rapist insurrectionist who is openly threatening American democracy is one of the candidates likely to actually win?

    Describe to me what happened in your life that led you to being this unbelievably dense.

    You want to vote 3rd party cuz you're big mad about the two party system? Great. Do something intelligent and vote for local/state 3rd party candidates so a 3rd party can get more than ZERO members in Congress so they can start building a movement toward getting a candidate elected president. You're not gonna have a good time though because currently no 3rd party is doing the work necessary to build that kind of movement.

    Jesus, it's almost beyond belief that people like you actually exist. Absolutely no critical thinking capability at all.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    .world

    Yeah I'm not reading all that

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Yeah I’m not reading all that

    Not reading is how you became the dipshit you are.

    I'm sorry that dbzer0 and .ml have been exposed as the red-headed incel stepchildren of Lemmy.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    I don't respect you or your opinions, so I have no motivation to give them any consideration

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago (1 child)

    You're a dumbfuck whose comments are all being downvoted because of your inability to critically think.

    Why the fuck would I care if a downvoted dumbfuck doesn't respect my opinions? A downvoted dumbfuck not liking my opinions means I'm doing something right.

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