▲ 52 ▼ Open Slopware - a list of AI-tainted FOSS software, plus alternatives (codeberg.org) submitted 8 months ago by BlueMonday1984@awful.systems to c/notawfultech@awful.systems 20 comments fedilink hide all child comments Currently in its very early stages, but it'll be a useful resource to identify slopified garbage and get it out of your life. Credit to Kat Marchin for starting this.
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago (2 children) Linux kernel? WTF? permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 8 months ago admitting slop lately permalink fedilink source parent [–] corbin@awful.systems 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Kernel developer's perspective: The kernel is just software. It doesn't have security bugs, just bugs. It doesn't have any opinions on userspace, just contracts for how its API will behave. Its quality control is determined by whether it boots on like five machines owned by three people; it used to be whether it booted Linus' favorite machine. It doesn't have a contract for its contributors aside from GPLv2 and an informal agreement to not take people to court with GPLv2 contract violations. So, LLM contributions are… just contributions. It might help to remember that the Linux development experience includes lots of aggressive critique of code. Patches are often rejected. Corporations are heavily scrutinized for ulterior motives. Personal insults are less common than they used to be but still happen, egos clash constantly, and sometimes folks burn out and give up contributing purely because they cannot stand the culture. It's already not a place where contributors are assumed to have good faith. More cynically, it seems that Linus has recently started using generative tools, so perhaps his reluctance to craft special contributor rules is part of his personal preference towards those tools. I'd be harsher on that preference if it weren't also paying dividends by e.g. allowing Rust in the kernel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago if Linus Torvals has started using generative tools, he'd be either much less smart than I thought he was, or he'd be another indication that most men's brains do not age well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dgerard@awful.systems 6 points 8 months ago admitting slop lately permalink fedilink source parent
[–] corbin@awful.systems 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child) Kernel developer's perspective: The kernel is just software. It doesn't have security bugs, just bugs. It doesn't have any opinions on userspace, just contracts for how its API will behave. Its quality control is determined by whether it boots on like five machines owned by three people; it used to be whether it booted Linus' favorite machine. It doesn't have a contract for its contributors aside from GPLv2 and an informal agreement to not take people to court with GPLv2 contract violations. So, LLM contributions are… just contributions. It might help to remember that the Linux development experience includes lots of aggressive critique of code. Patches are often rejected. Corporations are heavily scrutinized for ulterior motives. Personal insults are less common than they used to be but still happen, egos clash constantly, and sometimes folks burn out and give up contributing purely because they cannot stand the culture. It's already not a place where contributors are assumed to have good faith. More cynically, it seems that Linus has recently started using generative tools, so perhaps his reluctance to craft special contributor rules is part of his personal preference towards those tools. I'd be harsher on that preference if it weren't also paying dividends by e.g. allowing Rust in the kernel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago if Linus Torvals has started using generative tools, he'd be either much less smart than I thought he was, or he'd be another indication that most men's brains do not age well. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago if Linus Torvals has started using generative tools, he'd be either much less smart than I thought he was, or he'd be another indication that most men's brains do not age well. permalink fedilink source parent