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Invasion of Venezuela - Megathread (use for all Venezuela-related news until further notice) (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by to c/worldnews@lemmygrad.ml
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Please include sources for any claims; baseless speculation is counterproductive. Remember that this is not a win for the US, just another outburst of a dying empire.

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[–] 18 points 8 months ago (11 children)

The US no longer tolerates socdems that openly condemn their actions. They want complete subjugation which is only possible with a neoliberal and fascist regime such as Argentina.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (10 children)

    I don't know much about how political power works in Mexico, but I assumed that something like this would have to get approved by Sheinbaum, and she seemed unlikely to fold. Is this a backchannel thing or did they find a way to pressure her?

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    The problem is that we Mexico are not a sovereign nation. Our means of production, if not owned by the US, are controlled by US companies. Our economy us deeply dependent on the exports to the US. However, even with all of those conditions, we are a nation that practices solidarity and we do acts as help Cuba with oil. Stuff like this is unaceptable for the Yankees.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    Honestly? What is daddy amerikkka going to do? Move their factories to China to punish Mexico? Amerikkka is depends on Mexico for a lot of food and other things, and they can't really do anything to change that because it would make the line go down.

    Who sold out this time?

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    Well, what they can do in my homeland is similar to do criminal killings in the Caribbean while framing it as a fight with the drug cartel.

    Sadly, that might score points with the bloodthirsty fascists within the USA.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago* (3 children)

    What's the correct response to "Kiss the ring or maybe we kill your civilians?"

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    Hmm, maybe, I wouldn't respond to such an absurd question.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Sorry, I should have phrased that differently.

    I guess I'm considering the nature of the question if the consequence of non-compliance is not even economic, but just simply murdering people. Because I can apply economic analysis to one, but the what you're suggesting just sounds like naked terrorism, which warrants a different kind of thinking.

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago

    It is naked terrorism and it is not new sadly. We have seen it in Palestine.

    From our side, we have to keep agitating the masses against this violence. What the imperialist wants is demobilization and apathy. If we all at least fight against these two things, then some day we might see conditions for a different strategy.

    As for the oppressed, we have to keep fighting within the material conditions that we are living. In Venezuela, they were already winning by beating the sanctions. Now, their victory will be if they maintain and grow the comuna system(their form of DOTP) and all of the resources within state control.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    With China, the US can't get back back the factories without trying to offshore them to other countries.

    However Mexico borders the US... I assume the demented leadership of the empire has a more "concrete" way of obtaining those factories. It would not be the first time they steal Mexican land eitheir.

    Obviously an invasion and occupation would be a whole other affair on their own, but we've seen how unhinged the US continues to be.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    Stealing land from Mexico is an Amerikkkan tradition. But then what? The Fourth Reich is going to make their own shoes or pick their own lettuce? They could do that in any of the other land they stole from Mexico, like Texas. The formula is cheap labour inside other people's borders. The whole point of those factories being there is they're explicitly not in the US, and it would defeat the whole point to seize the land they're on. So what then? They're going to take the land AND the people? Is the presumption they will turn Mexico into a slave colony? If so, capitulation is defeat and Mexico should buy nukes and prepare for war right now.

    These people live in a fantasy world to think such threats would produce anything other than their own collapse.

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  • [–] 8 points 8 months ago*

    This sober reflection on how abysmally stupid it would be to invade Mexico should be obvious. However, here just north of the border in California, even if people aren't in favor of any military action against Mexico (at least) they will still uncritically parrot the idea that the US is capable of it. The idea of war being anything beyond causing death and destruction is utterly foreign to Americans. Not to mention they don't seem to recognize that starting a war on your border, which would likely turn into a Guerilla struggle, would very quickly spill into their own borders.

    The US population has no idea about the consequences of war when its on or next to your land. I'm scared to know if the US ruling class has become as ignorant as the sheep they've led.

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