“We’re going to need the help of robots and other forms of, uhhh, I guess you could say employment,” he said, shrugging. “We’re going to be employing a lot of artificial things.”

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[–] 122 points 9 months ago (29 children)

I love it when they follow Trump's name with his age. Fuck the gerontocracy

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  • [+] -15 points 9 months ago (28 children)

    Would socialism and collectivism help empower youth?

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  • [–] 30 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    There is no “-ism” that can save the US anymore

    They need a revolution and a new system. More than two parties and limits on presidential power

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (10 children)

    What about the principles of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin?

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  • [–] 8 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    It doesn't work on a large scale because people with Cluster B personality disorders will always corrupt any system we come up with.

    And historically those systems are typically structured in a way that allows authoritarianism and dictators to take over more quickly. The government has to control everything, which creates a much smaller point of failure.

    Capitalism is a shit system, but it took ~200 years to corrupt to this point because the power is more distributed (at first).

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    The only Solution is artificial president. We gonna need more of them

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago

    Yeah, then we can have President Grok whose opinion can be changed by whomever touches the code.

    The only thing worse than a person whose opinion changes based on the last person they talk to, is an AI whose opinion changes based on what oligarch or employee was able to sneak something into the model/code.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

    Capitalism is a shit system, but it took ~200 years to corrupt to this point because the power is more distributed (at first).

    The US is reaching the average lifespan of an Empire. Capitalism has not been particularly good at preventing collapse, it has been about average.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    It's not just the US; we're just speed running the end while the western world follows behind.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    US exceptionalism once again.

    "We're not shit, everyone is shit! But we're better at being shit than everyone else!"

    Okay then.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Feel free to keep your head buried in the sand, then.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Because "everyone else is doing the same thing" isn't a form of dismissing the problem and burying your head in the sand.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    Acknowledging that a problem is more wide spread than just one country isn't dismissing anything. In fact, I addressed that fact that the US is worse than the rest.

    I think your reading comprehension needs some work.

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  • Depends on when you consider the corruption of the wealthy came in. The Civil War was fought over slavery and it was because rich land barons in the south didn't want to have workers they paid anything to. So they also greased government hands to try and keep it. So the rot set in quickly, it just took longer to metastasize.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    no. The US will still be as dumb and as divided as before.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    What about using force?

    In Minecraft

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (12 children)

    then you deserve someone like trump.

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    You want a leader that dominates the country using force. Well congrats you got that leader its Trump. You dont get to pick between democracy and authoritarianism when it suits you.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    What about achieving socialism without using force?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    You wont be able to strip away peoples right to own private capital without force? Even if we pretend that the government was able to somehow democratize majority of the economies captial there would still be the issue that we see in all socialist/communist countries where government workers are a tier above everyone else and abuse that power both directly and indirectly.

    If you cant own anything yourself then you are forced to rely on the government for everything and hope that they are benevolent. If America magically became socialist today, trump would be the leader, do you trust him with absolute control over the entire nation?

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (7 children)

    What do you think of Marxism-Leninism?

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    It has some ok critiques of capitalism and some ok framing for class interactions but I think its a terrible ideology full of holes and logical inconsistencies. I hate the idea of a vanguard party, I hate the idea of removing private ownership. I think Marxist-Leninists are in the same bucket as nazi's or any kind supremacist.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (5 children)

    You do realize this is a federated site, right? There are Marxist-Leninists here. Here's a challenge: I want you to repeat what you just said in !socialism@lemmy.ml. The replies are gonna be full of ML people rightfully correcting you with legitimate criticism

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Yes I know its federated, I dont control which instances .world federates with nor am I afraid of seeing opinions i disagree with. .ML people wouldnt correct me on their instance I'd just get banned. You can go through the mod logs yourself if you want to see how the handle any discussion that isnt bootlicking.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (3 children)

    Are you more of a libertarian socialist?

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