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9/10 times, there's your problem right there... (media.piefed.ca)
submitted 8 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.world
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Remembering to look for and ignore folks with that telltale indicator has made the fediverse so much more enjoyable.

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[–] 15 points 8 months ago (38 children)

I don't get it, why is that instance of lemmy bad?

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  • [–] 22 points 8 months ago* (20 children)

    I think the problem is how authoritarian it is. It feels like living in Russia or china. If you say anything bad about china, russia, NK, or the moods you are attacked like you are the anticrist and banned.

    From my experience I would risk to say many of those accounts are not even "real" people just a lot of ccp or kremlin police. Really zero freedom to express any ideas or even debate

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  • [–] 21 points 8 months ago (9 children)

    The reason it looks so very similar to the Alt-Right, is because it basically is.

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago (8 children)

    To you, opposing genocide in Palestine and wanting to end US supremacy and western imperialism looks very similar to the Alt-Right.

    Your problem is that you don't care when it's the west oppressing people

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Not at all. If you don't want anyone to be opressed I would support but anyone knows about reeducation camps, ukranian invasion and I'm not even going to comment on nk... that is just absurd. I'm not defending us just because I don't agree with other peoples oppresion

    Btw I'm not american! Just a decent human that want other humans to be free.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    You support western colonialism which is orders of magnitude worse than anything you mentioned.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    who said that? I literally JUST said the opposite. You ate inputing in me an idea that it's not mine. That's a you problem.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    "I live in the most powerful and harmful empire but I reject any system opposing it" amounts to supporting it

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  • [–] 4 points 8 months ago (2 children)

    do you even know how to read? I said I'm not american

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  • [–] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (9 children)

    Yeah, it's absolutely a pro-dictatorship pro-russian/chinese farm to get their bot accounts comments, upvotes, etc, to push misinformation.

    Literally got banned today for saying Putin should pull out of Ukraine and china has live organ farm harvesting in Xin Jiang province.

    Edit: spelling. According to some big brain thinkers if you make a typo in the name of the province where people are tortured, it miraculously never happened...

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  • [+] -9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

    Literally got banned today for saying [...] china has live organ farm harvesting in Xin Xiang province.

    Well, good ban. Disinformation should be banned.

    You also seem very concerned for the people of a province whose name you can't correctly spell. Surely not concern trolling

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  • [–] 6 points 8 months ago (7 children)

    That is unfortunately not disinformation, you can easily google it.

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  • [+] -10 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Western state propaganda disinformation is readily available in Google, unfortunately. No material evidence for this, only "anonymous interviews". We've seen how trustworthy those are when manufacturing atrocity propaganda against US geopolitical adversaries.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (5 children)

    “Anonymous Interviews”

    https://thediplomat.com/2024/08/first-known-survivor-of-chinas-forced-organ-harvesting-speaks-out/

    Hey look the third result is a named survivor in an interview.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (4 children)

    The original comment talked about Xinjiang province, not about Falun Gong practitioners, whom are interviewed in your article.

    Falun Gong is a cult, and it's a political organization linked to Trump and to anti-Chinese propaganda. From Wikipedia:

    The performance arts group Shen Yun and the media organization The Epoch Times are the major outreach organizations of Falun Gong.[5] Both promote the spiritual and political teachings of Falun Gong.[109][110][111] They and a variety of other organizations such as New Tang Dynasty Television (NTD) operate as extensions of Falun Gong. These extensions promote the new religious movement and its teachings. In the case of The Epoch Times, they also promote conspiracy theories such as QAnon and anti-vaccine misinformation[112] and far-right politics in both Europe and the United States.[58][26][27] Around the time of the 2016 United States presidential election, The Epoch Times began running articles supportive of Donald Trump and critical of his opponents.[113][27] Falun Gong extensions have also been active in promoting the European radical right.

    Are these the people whose testimonies on China you'll be believing?

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    Man, good one, tankie. I'm sure Xi will be increasing your food rations for the month.

    We're also believing the videos from inside the compounds and the Uyghur Muslims from the province that escaped.

    You must be really proud of yourself for covering up some of the most heinous crimes against humanity that can ever occur.

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  • [–] -4 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Oh, now Wikipedia is a tankie too? Damn, you should tell the rest of lemmitors. Lmfao.

    Sucks that so many people in Lemmy use "tankie" as a though terminating cliche. "I don't like what I'm reading, must be a tankie".

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    Its not so much a terminating term, as much as a term used for people who blindly defend "cOmMuNiST" (fascist) regimes breaking human rights. Im just going to assume youre paid for by either china or russia to push these lies, because no moral and decent human would approve this type of industrialised torture and genocide unless they were being paid or a complete and utter sociopath.

    You can keep moving the goal post "oh, this person must be a liar" "oh, I dont trust that source" "these videos from outside the camp the chinese military refuse to let us into must be doctored" but Im not going to waste my time arguing with a bot or an agent.

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  • [–] -3 points 8 months ago

    "Not a thought terminating cliche, just gonna assume you're paid by China and Russia!! No moral human would defend China (hasn't participated in a war in 40 years) against the glorious USA (economic, political and military facilitator of the genocide in Palestine, while having higher prison count than China despite 1/5th the population)"

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  • [–] 15 points 8 months ago (3 children)

    The instance admins of lemmy.ml and lemmygrad.ml, who are also the developers of Lemmy, have a wide variety of harmful views including genocide denial, transphobia, and support for authoritarian regimes. They are incredibly ban-happy and spend an unreasonable amount of time removing dissenting opinion from their communities instead of developing the platform. They've got a bunch of people in a complete echo chamber where saying anything critical about their favourite regimes earns you a ban despite there being no rules against it. Their users tend to also be the genocide denying, authoritarian bootlicking type.

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  • [+] -7 points 8 months ago (1 child)

    including genocide denial

    Wanting 1% the material evidence of the genocide in Palestine applied to other, western geopolitically convenient "genocides", isn't genocide denial.

    transphobia

    Transphobia shouldn't be tolerated, you're free to move to hexbear where the slightest transphobia gets anyone banned

    support for authoritarian regimes

    Criticizing the mainstream western position on China is not support for authoritarianism. Support for authoritarianism is doing bothsideism while one side is the biggest oppressor on the face of the earth, which happens to be the side where you live.

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  • [–] 2 points 8 months ago

    Why on earth would I go to Hexbear when I've already made it pretty clear I have a strong distaste for .ml? Hexbear is full of the very same pro-authoritarian types and that instance has an awful reputation for brigading and harassing communities. I've seen this myself the numerous times they attempted to federate with other instances, my own included. No thanks.

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  • [–] 3 points 8 months ago

    They tend to be so frothing-at-the-mouth emphatically leftist that they're indistinguishable from a CIA program to discredit the left. To be clear, I don't think lemmy.ml is a CIA program, but I can't imagine what they'd do differently if it were.

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  • [–] -1 points 8 months ago (6 children)

    Because it's too left wing for the western redditers who are used to Scandinavia being the end of the political spectrum.

    Also, the admins of .world want to consolidate the fediverse under their own instance, hence the constant firehose of rhetoric from .world trying to drive people away from rival instances.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 months ago (4 children)

    If you define Left Wing as concentrating all political power in the hands of a narrow elite. The rest of the us have more egalitarian definitions of The Left.

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  • [–] -2 points 8 months ago* (2 children)

    Your view of reality isn't materialist. You can't explain why standards of life have been massively boosted in actually existing socialist countries and inequality rates have been the lowest recorded in history.

    The only explanation possible in your view, would be that, for example, 5 different benevolent dictators have succeeded each other over 70 years in the USSR maintaining world class healthcare, education, access to housing, pensions and job security. But these things don't happen in countries with dictators such as Saudi Arabia or fascist Spain.

    How is it possible that there are only "good dictators" in communist countries?

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  • [–] 1 point 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 child)

    You can’t explain why standards of life have been massively boosted in actually existing socialist countries

    You can't explain why the same thing happened in Capitalist countries and doesn't appear unique to "socialism".

    How is it possible that there are only “good dictators” in communist countries?

    Most outright dictators in communist countries were shitheads. After Stalin died, the USSR had the secret speech. After Mao died, the Chinese communist party made it a high priority to prevent any one person from ever gaining that much power again (which fell apart with Xi Jinping). Ceaușescu was more interested in a life of luxury than in the working class. Most communist countries at most times had a political elite that ruled, not an individual with singular authority over the nation.

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  • [–] 0 points 8 months ago

    You can't explain why the same thing happened in Capitalist countries

    This is false, though. a few capitalist countries, particularly in western Europe and in North America, industrialized at the expense of the rest of the world through colonialism and imperialism since the 1800s, but since the end of WW1, only a minority of capitalist states have actually developed and industrialized, most of them being small European nations still. No fast industrialization with massive life quality boosts happened anywhere in Latin America or Africa, and in Asia only in US puppet regimes utilized as weapons against China. If India had applied the policies that China or the USSR did, hundreds of millions of lives would have been saved from disease and starvation over the past 100 years.

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