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What have you witnessed or seen that would sound like a conspiracy theory if someone else told you? (feddit.de)
submitted 3 years ago by to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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[โ€“] 92 points 3 years ago* (19 children)

Got cheap, no-name, unbranded LED bulbs off of eBay. Years later, not one of them had broken.

But Philips LED bulbs? Those things don't last a year. In fact, none of the high-rated, "high quality," top-ten-list, LED light bulbs have ever outlasted an incandescent in my experience.

If you want your LEDs to last, buy the no-name bulbs, guys. The Phoebus Cartel is still out there.

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  • [โ€“] 62 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Boy do I have a video for you. It's regarding the cartel and light bulb engineering if you'd be interested:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb7Bs98KmnY

    Monopolies are scary though, especially if they can make such collective actions without telling anyone.

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  • [โ€“] 20 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    Ha, I was about to dig out that video.

    I will say in regards to LEDs, it's a bit of a tricky thing. Philips in general are terrible, I don't know what they do, but they're also really pretty. Amazing for rarely-active mood lighting. For actual lighting, I use the white-tone-changeable Ikea bulbs, and they seem to last forever, hot as they get.

    That's the weirdest thing: The Ikeas run hotter than the Philips, yet still last longer. I really get the feel that Philips optimizes purely for color, smoothness and softness. They know what people use their overly expensive stuff for since in some areas they got little competition. It's annoying, but for those purposes it also works really well.

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  • [โ€“] 8 points 3 years ago

    I love that man, his brain and how he probes any subject matter which comes across his party.

    The way my head absorbed what you said was: Phillips is the Apple of the LEDs. If you want something longer lasting, stick with the "ol reliable" brand such had to innovate to sell cheaper. I wonder if people have done experiments..

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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 years ago

    Do not remember the video but isn't that the whole problem: LEDs like to be cooler. Bright pretty LEDs get hoter. People buy smaller prettier bulbs. Things have a tradeoff independent of price. A small bright LED that is in an enclosed space will not last long. Recommend buying pretty LEDs and using them without enclosure or buying dimmable and setting them to 50% on default.

    And not buying the integrated shit.

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  • [+] 26 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (5 children)
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  • [โ€“] 5 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children)

    Oh. Huh. Gotta say, I wasn't expecting to encounter anyone who had good experience with those bulbs.

    That... blows a hole in my theory.

    I still don't regret the cheap, foreign light bulbs I got off of eBay (best LEDs I've bought thus far)... but maybe my family and I have just been unlucky with name brand LEDs.

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  • [โ€“] 2 points 3 years ago

    I haven't had any problem either, even in enclosed fixtures that the bulbs I have aren't rated for. There are so many different models I don't know if you can totally generalize by brand. And I don't use anything higher than 60 watt equivalent. There is such a thing as too bright.

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  • [โ€“] 6 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Gonna add on to your comment by suggesting ESP-based lights running WLED for any fans of smart lighting; having smart lights that run FOSS firmware, don't need an external internet connection to work, and integrate well with reactive lighting solutions like HyperHDR and LedFX is pretty dang nifty!

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