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banning and defederating communities (lemmy.ca)
submitted 3 years ago* by to c/RedditMigration@kbin.social
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Hey all, I recently left reddit like many of you. I have a question regarding lemmy and the fediverse on the history of banning and defederation. I have noticed several posts calling for varying communities to be disconnected. were these removal requests as prevalent before the mass migration? Usually I am all for communities existsting in their own spaces, barring illegal content. I am hoping that the new users are coming here with the intent to learn how this community works, before we try to remake the community we just left.

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[–] 10 points 3 years ago (10 children)

A lot of people in the Fediverse don't seem to appreciate the concept that the political left is just as capable of intolerance and extremism as the political right.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Anyone that is familiar with the ways that communism has existed in Warsaw-pact countries, in China, in southeast Asia in general, etc., should be able to see that. LGBTQ+ people were, if anything, even more fucked in most communist countries. There certainly wasn't any meaningful religious tolerance, since religion was banned in at least some communist countries (or wholly controlled by the gov't).

    I'm in favor of communism in principle, but not in practice. I'd love to live in a commune, but I don't think I'd want to live in a communist country.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 years ago

    I'm in favor of communism in principle, but not in practice. I'd love to live in a commune, but I don't think I'd want to live in a communist country.

    You might be interested in anarcho-communism. I'm not one myself, but they're the only kind of communists that I'm okay with.

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  • [+] 4 points 3 years ago (3 children)
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  • [–] 2 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not talking about parties, I'm talking about the political spectrum. There is no "Right-Wing Party", nor is there a "Left-Wing Party". Conservatives and liberals can be found in both of the actual dominant American parties.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    🤷🏻‍♀️

    The shift of the political battle from workers-vs-owners to populists-vs-pluralists has been driven by the far right and has been an explicit goal of the right since 1922.

    The populist ideology uses intolerance and bigotry as a tool. Hate on a group to get the workers to vote for the rich-get-richer economics the right wing favors.

    Ideally a group they can describe as disgustingly weak in one breath and a dangerous threat the next.

    So it's de jure the case that the left a.k.a. pluralists oppose intolerance and bigotry. That's what makes us the left.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    So it's de jure the case that the left a.k.a. pluralists oppose intolerance and bigotry. That's what makes us the left.

    Many on the left don't actually understand pluralism, though. It has become pretty mainstream to shut down voices one disagrees with.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 years ago

    If by pluralism you mean competing viewpoints in political systems, then the ability to shut them down means that those voices have failed to successfully compete. That's like saying "No one wants to work anymore!" when you don't want to pay workers the prevailing wage, and then crying because your business fails.

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