1. Which mods/admins were being Power Tripping Bastards

https://lemmy.ml/u/davel

2. What sanction did they impose (e.g. community ban, instance ban, removed comment)?

Community Ban

3. Provide a screenshot of the relevant modlog entry (don’t de-obfuscate mod names).

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4. Provide a screenshot and explanation of the cause of the sanction (e.g. the post/comment that was removed, or got you banned).

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(I have not posted there)

Likewise the community has no rules listed, so I'm not sure how I've broken rule 4

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Davel is probably going to try to claim me downvoting a post or comment of his that popped up on my feed or something as me breaking the entire instances rule 4 (no spam?) - which is why I need to be banned only from one community I don't engage in.

Lemmy.ml admin Davel has been rage downvoting my posts a lot lately, even going so far as to downvote me telling real legitimate antisemites to 'fuck off'.

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Even CowBee had the decency to admit they were in the wrong and change their ragevote to an upvote.

Davel however seems to especially thinskinned even for the typical .ML'er and would rather double down and engage in poorly disguised retaliation bans for criticisms of a political ideology.

This thought terminating behaviour on display by one of the admins of such a reputable and outstanding instance as Lemmy.ml was not at all warranted and I hereby call on the leadership at lemmy.ML to unban me so that I may continue to not post in their community.

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[–] 3 points 9 months ago (45 children)

Is... is there a rule anywhere that says thats how the comm operates?

Or are we just all supposed to assume potentially any comm is run by the invisible and artibrary whims and unstated rulesets of mods?

They're not... I don't think they are upset they cannot participate in a comm they did not participate in. That's not the point.

The point is the the princple, or lack thereof.

If you want to have an instance wide rule that actually codifies, in some way, the ability of admins/powermods to ban anyone, from anywhere, for any reason... then that would be shitty, but at least openly and transparently shitty.

Then at least Dictatorship of the Daveletariat would at least be, you know, explicitly stated policy?

... does such a public facing rule or ruleset already exist, and I just missed it?

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (44 children)

    I was just pointing out that there are multiple communities on the threadiverse that do the same thing, including some hosted on this very instance! A community moderator's job is to grow a community and if a person isn't a right fit for the community why would a moderator want to keep them around, especially if they are disruptive to the community

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (42 children)

    Ok, so they deserve being banned for ... breaking an undefined rule.

    That's your position?

    EDIT: the whole problem here is this person got banned from a comm they'd never been to... for spamming.

    That doesn't make sense.

    You saying them being banned from a comm they'd never been to... for disrupting that comm... also does not make any sense.

    The other element of this problem is powermods (by which I mean people who mod multiple comms) and admins banning people from one place for infractions committed in another, and then potentially daisy chaining through private convos between mods... when said banned person isn't really clearly violating stated rules that have that stated penalty outcome.

    That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there's basically just a cool kids club that doesn't actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people ... basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

    Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago

    I don't know what the fuck hexbear is or why you are so obsessed with me. I stopped using lemmy because of the horrible experience I had in this post, saw a degoogle post that mentioned piefied so I made a new account here to get away and when I went to look at what communities I had subscribed to on the lemmy account I see you are still talking about me.

    Please stop, I don't want anything to do with you or this community and won't make the mistake of commenting here again.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 months ago*

    Quoting you here, as it applies to you:

    Gotta love how they accused you of being an alt with zero proof because you dared to comment on something.

    They could go outside and do some praxis for the theory they say to read, but instead they do this. No wonder why no one but them likes them.

    The place you originally posted this was particularly ironic as she has 'alt of sunshine' in her bio.

    Woman who disagrees with you and doesn't log in rather than continue engaging with you: alt account to be ridiculed

    Woman who agrees with you and has 'alt account of xyz' in bio: not an alt, no evidence

    Incredible consistency which I have come to expect from you

    You have as many posts as I do with an account thats been active half as long, I think the person needing to go do praxis is you. every week I'm outside doing stuff, I even had a federal agent threaten to arrest me last year.

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  • [–] 1 point 7 months ago (5 children)

    What the fuck is wrong with you? I left your goddamn instance because of this shit to come over here and you are diagnosing me as seriously mentally ill. I'm sorry you all won I won't make another comment in this community again. Just Stop.

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  • [–] [M] 6 points 7 months ago (1 child)

    Admin here. I'm sorry you had a bad experience and that this post got necroed again. The YPTB community tends to be quite combative in nature, so I agree it's probably a good idea to give it a miss if internet slap fights aren't your thing.

    I'd like to also take this opportunity to point out the disengage rule, which can be very helpful to short-circuit this type of situation. While it's too late this time around, hopefully you can put it to good use in future.

    FYI, I'm issuing a warning and a community ban to @eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com and @sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com. It's not ok to gang up on and bad-jacket other users, especially Flotilla members, just because you disagree with them. Lurkers can also be legit users.

    Also, as very little of this comment thread was at all relevant to the post topic, I've now removed most of it.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    Or maybe I prefer to lurk and spend more time offline? What is this bad-faith misogyny directed at me for?

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    posts for the first time in months

    immediately has dudes looking through her post history to declare her a fake nontypical user account

    These people are all terminally online and complaining about the exact behavior that they are fine with when it's people they agree with doing it.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    oh that was me downvoting you. rather than address anything she said you two were sneering at her for agreeing with me and saying she's on an alt account.

    absolutely toxic behavior from you specifically 90% of the time, tbh I tend to toss you one when I see you on general principle.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago*

    That is exactly the kind of hivemind/culty bullshit that is what people hate about reddit, that there’s basically just a cool kids club that doesn’t actually follow any rules with any consistency, and just acts as a kind of Mean Girls squad, exiling and censoring people … basically for annoying them or making fools of them.

    Its middle school mentality. Vibes based moderation. Censorship by popularity contest, where only the cool kids get to vote on that.

    You could easily be referring to all the people raging about 'the tankie triad' with this.

    The vast majority of the time I look at someone complaining about getting censored on .ml they were either being bigoted or insulting people.

    As for vibes based moderation and censoring people for actions in other places, I got banned from quokk.au by their admin for 'brigading' because I cross-linked to a db0 thread complaining about the OPs mod actions. 'brigading' is nowhere in the site rules for quokk.au as far as I'm aware. I am also the only person to have ever been banned by quokk.au in this way so far.

    I was banned for 'homophobia' by OP because I complained about his post having a misogynistic title.

    You are literally the one defending a powermod who bans people in retaliation, because they got banned from one comm that they clearly despise for being a toxic asshole.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (9 children)

    My position is that if you don't like a community then you should not go there to be disruptive. When someone continues to disrupt a community that they dislike it is within the moderators duties to stop that. I support the moderators on divisionbyzero who use that to curate positive communities, just the other day another moderator made a now locked post saying they do the exact same thing complained about by the OP. I also have a reply from Diva saying that the OP has done this same action so I stand by my PTB statement.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

    Ok so you're missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

    They got banned from a comm they'd never been to, never posted in... because they were apparently 'spamming'.

    You... can't have spammed a community that you've never made a post or comment in.

    ... Also, you say you stand by your PTB statement?

    Your original statement, the inciting thing for this whole comment chain... is you issuing a YDI verdict.

    Not a PTB verdict.

    Those two are basically total opposites.

    ... Are you confused?

    Like, just generally?

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (7 children)

    Ok so you’re missing the entire basis point of why this is absurd.

    a basis point is a finance unit for 1/100th of a percent, you could just drop the 'basis' and your sentence would make sense.

    really funny that you started your whole diatribe about her being confused by botching your own word usage. congratulations

    I don't really care about butchering the english language, so don't come at me. usually I treat it with the respect it deserves, which is none. the irony, however, was excellent

    I got banned from 27 communities on quokk.au for something which is not in their rules, because they were simply justifying retaliation against me for calling the OP out.

    I don't think this is a principled complaint that you have.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (6 children)

    Stop acting like you're innocent.

    They banned you for brigading after you posted links on hexbear directing users to a post you had made about OP.

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    She supports left unity when anarchists are attacked but not when they defend from AuthComs. She always defends them but not us.

    Edit: "I defend anarchists, I just mod a place that hates them and defend Hexbear and Dengists and everyone but anyone more individualist than Lenin. And calling out user actions is sexist."

    I'm not "feeling attacked", I'm calling out bad faith from someone who always defends the aggressor.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    And calling out user actions is sexist.

    Nowhere did I say that, however I did think that one of OP's thread title was misogynist, and he banned me for saying that. He also said it was homophobic to even raise the issue, but again you don't care when it's your friends doing it.

    I literally do anarchist organizing IRL, I am an anarchist. Anarchism isn't being in the 'right' online clique, as important as that clearly is to you.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago*

    I call out people for being sectarian against anarchists. It's literally in the rules one of the comms I mod. I'm not going to defend someone that's being shitty just because they're an anarchist.

    I try to report users being ableist when I see it regardless of who it is.

    if you're feeling attacked because I called out one of your friends for something I saw as misogynistic, maybe that says more about you than you intended.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    please direct me to where anything about 'brigading' is mentioned in their rules. it's vibes based bullshit, they banned me because I made a post about their mod acting like an asshole and they went looking for an excuse.

    they site banned me for a singular link in a comment on a thread, not even to their site. meanwhile the OP is acting like a martyr for getting a singular comm ban

    you moderate for them though, so I can see why you would be inclined to defend their behavior

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    There aren't any rules, and you shouldn't need to be told not to brigade.

    You're from .ML with a personal vendetta, so I can see why you would be inclined to slander them.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    No rules except the ones you make up to get rid of people you don't like.

    not beating the vibes based moderation allegations with that.

    I'm literally the only person to get banned from quokk.au and it's a rule essentially made up on the spot.

    is cross-posting brigading now?

    the person I was originally replying to seemed pretty outraged at the idea of decisions being made arbitrarily like that- but I'm sure if you guys do it it's fine.

    I don't think it's reasonable to say I have a personal vendetta, I'm just bringing this up because the OP is acting like getting banned from one comm for acting like a toxic asshole is actually dictatorial mods banning someone arbitrarily.

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