Alcoholicorn comments on Hillary Clinton Says Young Americans Are Pro-Palestine Because They Watch ‘Totally Made Up’ Videos of Gaza Horrors

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I am saying she could have won if she moved left and promised to improve the material conditions the people she was asking to vote for her.

Moving right does not earn democrats republican votes, it only decreases their own turnout.

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (5 children)

How would that have made her win? Her policy, and the history of the Democratic Party in contrast to the republicans is that she would be better for the people. Better is better. It doesn't matter how much really. If people wanted better, they would already vote for her.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Her messaging was "America is already great", her policies were means-tested bullshit that anyone who's gone their entire life not getting help understood wouldn't apply to them. Hillary was the status quo candidate.

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

So you figure trump is better?

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago* (2 children)

I am describing how electoral politics work. You have to promise to help the people whose votes you want and hurt their enemies. You can't run on "well you owe me your vote because tHiS iS tHe mOsT iMpOrTaNt eLeCtiOn oF oUr liVeS"

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[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 child)

No. Ideally you should win a vote by presenting a good platform and showing the candidate to be a good leader - specifically by not dividing people and talking about enemies within the country. Talk about perspectives and differences in platforms and leadership track records. Being 'the most important' election is a good reason to tell people to really pay attention to the options and actually get out and vote. If Americans are too stupid to understand that, they deserve the orange moron they got and the long term damage it is doing to the country.

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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago*

There are enemies within the country; every worker's interests are diametrically opposed to those of Jeff Bezos. A leader who pretends we're all on the same side is siding with capital. Billionaires like Bloomberg understand that, hence why he spent hundreds of millions trying to stop the candidate who wanted workers to have healthcare.

"The election is important election ever, for real, thats why you have to vote for a rightwing ghoul instead of a candidate who can actually win" has been going on since Nixon.

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