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I can never take 4trans shit seriously (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 9 months ago by [M] to c/transmemes@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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[–] 7 points 9 months ago (1 child)

What has their weight to do with it? Really no reason to fat-shame! :(

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    For boobs? It helps. You never heard of fat boobs?

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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Sure, although in most trans women not as much that C cups would be seen as small.

    Anyways, that's not what the other person was talking about. They used specifically "overweight" as a term to devaluate someone.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    That's your interpretation. The context is getting large boobs in a year of hormone therapy. The other person said that the typical 4chaner edgelord is overweight and thus shouldn't be so hard to get bigger boobs in a year.

    The devaluating part of the term is "edgelord", not "overweight", you are for some reason bringing fat shaming into the convo when it's about edgelord shaming of overweight people.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    "Overweight" is a fat-shaming term in itself and it is loaded with social stigma and devaluation...

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (1 child)

    Overweight is descriptive of people that are over the healthy weight/fat in body range. It is proven that being over the healthy range has increased risks of having health complications.

    I am overweight. If you have over 25% of fat in body, you are overweight. If you have over 30, you are obese. I am obese right now. Working on it.

    If you want to load stigma into terms you do you, but I am not.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    This is not true. It isn't any prove that people that weigh more than the "healthy" range are less healthy. That is just more stigma against fat people. Obesity as a concept is deeply intervowen with stigma.

    I can recommend the podcast "Maintenance Phase", where the hosts tackle these misconceptions and the stigma with deep dives into the actual research. Most of the debate about health is just bullshit and more about normativity and power than it is about health.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago

    I know people that induced themselves with type 2 diabetes because of their weight. Weight is directly related to heart disease issues and other freaking serious stuff.

    None of the people of the podcast you recommended (a podcast instead of a scientific article when talking about actual health issues bruh) is a doctor or an actual medical researcher. There are several studies of reputable sources proving several of the issues listed in the following link.

    https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-management/adult-overweight-obesity/health-risks

    I know that there's a lot of stigma from the fitness industry, but to say that there are no real issues from having too much fat in your body is crazy. No. You can dispute all you want but I wanted to at least write one response so people that come after have an actual source instead of a freaking podcast.

    That overweight and obesity are terms that the fitness industry misuses to create stigma? Sure, but they are medical terms with actual meaning and are related to medical issues.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    Overweight is an adjective. It is absolutely not a fat shaming term. As a former fat kid I can attest there are far worse terms than being called "overweight" and I'm genuinely curious why you have such an issue with a non-issue word?

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