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Who wants war with Russia? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9844277

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[+] -3 points 9 months ago (38 children)
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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (37 children)

    Do you mean that the Ukrainian people are getting

    assaulted, kidnapped

    On the territories still controlled by Zelensky's regime - yes, kidnapping and assault (busification) is daily occurence indeed.

    murdered

    Well, this is the point of busification, to send the people to die, so also yes.

    Thankfully, Russia is slowly but steadily liberating people from that.

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  • [–] 0 points 9 months ago (17 children)

    You're right. War is hell. We should be pressuring the aggressor to end this before more people die.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (16 children)

    They're doing their best, but someone keeps refusing a peace treaty🤔

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (15 children)

    One would argue that the aggressor should be making concessions not the victim, but it seems like you've already picked a side.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (14 children)

    You could argue that, if you were both woefully uninformed about who the aggressor is and laughably ignorant about how armed conflict works. You could.

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

    I'm just the most decorated veteran in my family with 5 generations of service, but sure teach me how armed conflict works.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
    1. Ukraine provoked said war for 8 years. Fully believing (or being led to believe) it would win.
    2. it did ethnic cleansing in Donbas during that time and was preparing to finish the job when Russia brought the Hammer down
    3. In a war the losing side has to make concessions to reach peace, not the winning side. Russia is winning that war, ergo Ukraine has to make concessions. In WW2 Japan surrendered unconditionally, it was not the Allies who made any concessions to Japan. When Prussia invaded Denmark, Denmark conceded Holstein to Prussia. Prussia did not concede anything to Denmark, it won that war. Did you per chance believe that Mexico turned over half of its territory to the USA because it was in a good mode or something? The US defeated Mexico in a war, Mexico had to make huge territorial concessions. It is completely irrelevant who was the agressor in this regard. In other words: Why should I concede you something when I am in a position to take more? You have to concede something to prevent me from taking more.

    5 generations of not knowing how peace making works. Something any grand strategy video game would've teached you. Or looking up any war in history. Loser makes concessions, how hard is this to get?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    No problem! So when you win, you get to set the terms of the treaty. When you lose, you don't. Surprised they didn't go over this in war school, but whatev I'm happy to help

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    I fail to see what this has to do with Ukraine. You're going to have to pull out your 2 dollar words. The war isn't over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace. Until then there is no winner or loser.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    No worries:

    -Russia Win

    -Ukraine Lose

    -Winner get write rules

    The war isn’t over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace.

    -Sentences spoken from a bunker in Berlin. You're a decorated imperial veteran and you don't understand the concept of "combat ineffective?" What were they even teaching you in war crimes school?

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  • [+] -1 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Sigh Allow me, @RiverRock@lemmy.ml.

    The US-backed Maidan coup and US & Ukraine-supported fascist paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine:

     
    NATO expansion:

     
    NATO in general:

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  • [+] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    He'll yeah borther semper pie

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  • [+] -3 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (15 children)
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  • [–] 22 points 9 months ago (14 children)

    Shitlibs complain about .ml censoring them and then when you actually look it's them getting a comment removed (not even a ban) for calling people evil Russians and telling them to kill themselves

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  • [+] -7 points 9 months ago (13 children)

    I literally had a comment removed and was soft banned from World News for suggesting you had an alt account with no explanation why.

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  • [–] 14 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You said it yourself: for suggesting that he had an alt account. That could get you a ban on dbzer0 as well, in that case for “bad-jacketing”:

    https://wiki.dbzer0.com/divisions-by-zero/the-golden-rules/

    1. Don’t be shitty. i.e. telling people to kill themselves, or bad-jacketing is bannable.
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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (4 children)

    Thank you for the explanation, it might be worth adding bad-jacketing to the rules or code of conduct.

    Is dbzer0 somehow related to lemmy.ml?

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  • [–] 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    No, dbzer0 is its own thing. What they have in common is they’re both run by socialists.

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Does being accused of being a bot qualify as bad-jacketing?

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (6 children)

    You got a one day ban for direct personal attacks. Once again: people complaining about .ml "censoring" them are always just people mad that the rules got enforced on them when they're used to the mods giving them a parse for having the same politics

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago (5 children)

    You're wrong, it was for bad-jacketing which currently is not actually in the rules for lemmy.ml or that News community.

    I did not make any personal attacks, but I have seen a lot on here which do not get removed.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Ah huh. You can play dumb if you like.

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  • [–] -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    I am pretty curious as to how you'd know more details about my comment removal and ban than I do.

    It would be pretty unethical if you had access to a mod account.

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  • [–] 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    Because I can read the modlog, genius.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Thank you for the kind words and the tip! It seems like the comment was removed because it broke Rule 2: "Be respectful, especially when disagreeing. Everyone should feel welcome here." I'm also still banned from that community - presumably it was a 3 day ban and not 24 hours.

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