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Who wants war with Russia? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9844277

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[–] -2 points 9 months ago (15 children)

One would argue that the aggressor should be making concessions not the victim, but it seems like you've already picked a side.

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago (14 children)

    You could argue that, if you were both woefully uninformed about who the aggressor is and laughably ignorant about how armed conflict works. You could.

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  • [+] -1 points 9 months ago (6 children)
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  • [–] 4 points 9 months ago

    Sigh Allow me, @RiverRock@lemmy.ml.

    The US-backed Maidan coup and US & Ukraine-supported fascist paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine:

     
    NATO expansion:

     
    NATO in general:

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  • [+] -3 points 9 months ago (4 children)
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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    He'll yeah borther semper pie

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  • [–] -1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

    I'm just the most decorated veteran in my family with 5 generations of service, but sure teach me how armed conflict works.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
    1. Ukraine provoked said war for 8 years. Fully believing (or being led to believe) it would win.
    2. it did ethnic cleansing in Donbas during that time and was preparing to finish the job when Russia brought the Hammer down
    3. In a war the losing side has to make concessions to reach peace, not the winning side. Russia is winning that war, ergo Ukraine has to make concessions. In WW2 Japan surrendered unconditionally, it was not the Allies who made any concessions to Japan. When Prussia invaded Denmark, Denmark conceded Holstein to Prussia. Prussia did not concede anything to Denmark, it won that war. Did you per chance believe that Mexico turned over half of its territory to the USA because it was in a good mode or something? The US defeated Mexico in a war, Mexico had to make huge territorial concessions. It is completely irrelevant who was the agressor in this regard. In other words: Why should I concede you something when I am in a position to take more? You have to concede something to prevent me from taking more.

    5 generations of not knowing how peace making works. Something any grand strategy video game would've teached you. Or looking up any war in history. Loser makes concessions, how hard is this to get?

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    No problem! So when you win, you get to set the terms of the treaty. When you lose, you don't. Surprised they didn't go over this in war school, but whatev I'm happy to help

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  • [–] -2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

    I fail to see what this has to do with Ukraine. You're going to have to pull out your 2 dollar words. The war isn't over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace. Until then there is no winner or loser.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

    No worries:

    -Russia Win

    -Ukraine Lose

    -Winner get write rules

    The war isn’t over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace.

    -Sentences spoken from a bunker in Berlin. You're a decorated imperial veteran and you don't understand the concept of "combat ineffective?" What were they even teaching you in war crimes school?

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