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"Earning a living" (lemmy.ml)
submitted 9 months ago by to c/memes@lemmy.ml
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[–] 24 points 9 months ago (8 children)

I dont belong on this planet. That's why I have to rent space until I mercifully pass away. Giving birth is child abuse and the most selfish act possible.

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago (4 children)

    Giving birth is child abuse and the most selfish act possible.

    Hard disagree. 🤷‍♂️ Surely depends on who you are and your means of providing for the child, both materialistically and emotionally. That's just my opinion.

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  • [–] 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

    In some countries you are a disease away of financial bankruptcy. Good luck being able to 100% guarantee a living.

    Furthermore, this is the first generation that is worse off than the previous one, and its a trend that seems will continue.

    In the lucky event of being part of the select 3% that has financial security, no luxury can shield you from the pain the rest of the people is suffering.

    Maybe I'm a pessimist, but introducing a child into this roulette is not the kindest if you think about it.

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  • [–] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

    In some countries you are a disease away of financial bankruptcy. Good luck being able to 100% guarantee a living.

    Yup, but far from everywhere.

    Furthermore, this is the first generation that is worse off than the previous one

    Strong doubt 🤨 Which generation are we talking about? Lots of wars and plagues and stuff in history have made a generation of people worse off than their parents. That obviously didn't stop us from procreating.

    Maybe I'm a pessimist, but introducing a child into this roulette is not the kindest if you think about it.

    Definitely are, or maybe more accurately a perspectivist, if that's a thing. There are lots of countries and societies where bringing children up is not a "roulette" or "child abuse". Everyone I know has good means and nothing but love for their children, in spite of (sometimes harsh) difficulties.

    And we are more emotionally aware of ourselves and our children in this generation than ever before. For the first time, a generation of parents are raising themselves and their children simultaneously. It's very emotionally and mentally taxing but it's a very good step in the right direction. We are listening to our kids and understanding their needs.

    Have a good day, try not to generalize a (personal?) bad situation. ❤️

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    While I agree with most of what you said, I cannot disregard how a swift change in politics can be introduced to satisfy the wims of the billonaires. We have recent and astounding examples (USA). Sadly I don't trust humanity anymore. I don't have a choice but to try to live my life the best I can, but I won't force anyone else into existence.

    Have a good one you too my friend!

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  • [–] 3 points 9 months ago

    I on the other hand also agree with you now, that a swift change in politics can definitely upend an entire nation and affect several generations to come.

    But when we have children, we go into it with a lot of risk. The child might be born with disorders, develop crippling phobias, be bullied, get cancer. We never know what might happen. I might get run over by a car on my way to work tomorrow. But I can't live my life thinking "what if" all the time. We have to keep going and have to keep fighting for a better life. Or work to maintain a good life we might already have.

    Or at least that's a drive that a lot of humans have. It's in the nature of the majority of people I would guess. Otherwise we wouldn't be here, because our ancestors would've already cut the chain. Life is fuckin' hard, quite frankly. And if that drive wouldn't be there, it wouldn't be worth it. 😅 Sharing it with people you love is what makes it worthwhile IMO.

    Thanks for a good talk 😊

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  • [–] 1 point 9 months ago

    I semi agree with you, but the focus on "giving birth" vs "impregnation" seems misogynistic as fuck, especially with how much easier (cost, recovery time, risk of complications) vasectomies are than hysterectomies or even tying fallopian tubes.

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