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Collision Course (infosec.pub)
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[–] 4 points 9 months ago (1 child)

Eco-fascism isn't the solution to problems caused by a system that rewards greed and misuse.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 child)

    Pretty sure humans rather than greed are the problem & ending humans would end all sustainability problems on the planet.

    Societies that have tried to eliminate the profit motive/greed have spoiled the planet worse. Consider the USSR: compared to the US, a better environmental record might be expected due to their command economy. To the contrary

    Total emissions in the USSR in 1988 were about 79% of the US total. Considering that the Soviet GNP was only some 54% of that of the USA, this means that the Soviet Union generated 1.5 times more pollution than the USA per unit of GNP.

    Their planners considered pollution control

    unnecessary hindrance to economic development and industrialization

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    By the 1990s, 40% of Russia's territory began demonstrating symptoms of significant ecological stress, largely due to a diverse number of environmental issues, including deforestation, energy irresponsibility, pollution, and nuclear waste.

    And this generously glosses over the extent of water contamination, hazardous dumping of toxic & nuclear waste into oceans, etc.

    Humans are the problem despite efforts to eliminate greed. The other species on the planet deserve better.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    Eco-fascism is bad no matter how kindly you spell it out. You're not going to willingly sacrifice yourself. You just want others to do it.

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  • [–] -3 points 9 months ago (1 child)

    I'm presenting the argument to refute claims that this simply reduces to greed when it doesn't. Humans are the problem, and you're not refuting it.

    The higher ancient Mesopotamian gods had the right idea of exterminating humanity for not letting them rest. Their mistake was to settle for limiting their population growth with

    • human suffering
    • deadly childbirths
    • infertility
    • shortened lifespans

    instead of ending them.

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  • [–] 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

    Please tell me who you want eliminated first. Tell me what people are safe to restrict from breeding. I'm sure this time eugenics won't be misused!

    Edit: Come on, you won't say who you're comfortable with ending their culture? Not shocking since you'd just say it was the brown people who are unimportant.

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