Weird how the Grand Old Pedos were insisting the Dems were going to ban prayer everywhere, yet its Pedo Don who started banning prayer in federal facilities...

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[–] 186 points 10 months ago (19 children)

The post title is misleading, and I think looking at the article makes it a lot clearer what is happening and why:

Federal authorities told demonstrators Friday that there would be “no more prayer” in front of or inside the Broadview ICE facility, in a move that mystified local leaders and raised legal questions.

A federal representative delivered the news to a huddle of faith leaders and activists standing outside the Immigration and Customs Enforcement facility Friday, speaking after faith leaders were denied entry to the building for the third time Friday.

In other words, prayer is being used as a form of protest outside the Broadview ICE facility. The solution, if you're the US government, apparently, is to ban prayer!

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  • [–] 74 points 10 months ago*

    Its not just "in front of"...

    They're not allowing any member of any religious group access to detainees.

    As such, they started protesting in the "free speech zone", which is a tiny fenced in area that's literally and only there because you can't have your first amendment rights in public anymore.

    They're not a new thing:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gje3HiouzvQ

    Like, it's already not allowed inside, it wasn't allowed directly outside, it was only allowed in a small cage whose location the facility choose to keep protestors out of the way.

    This is a very big thing

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  • [–] 34 points 10 months ago

    Like you say, prayer is only banned if it is being used to protest Trump and ICE.

    But that's tantamount to saying "You can only pray for the things that are on the government's approved list." This should be pretty much just as shocking and offensive to most religious people as an outright ban on prayer.

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  • [–] [S] 15 points 10 months ago (1 child)

    Based on your excerpt, it appears the Trump administration has banned prayer inside of, and nearby, federal facilities, just like the title says.

    What is misleading?

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  • [–] 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    They don’t religion—specifically, Christianity—to be associated with sympathy for ICE victims.

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  • [–] 10 points 10 months ago* (2 children)

    I read the title and came to this exact conclusion. I assumed prayer was being used as a form of protest and that was banned by the feds. What's misleading? Prayer is protected speech, even as a form of protest, no?

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    This is why many communities enforce the post title being the same as the article title. The title provided is incredibly misleading, whereas the actual article title is not.

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  • [–] 2 points 10 months ago

    I would not call it misleading as not broad enough. It should say prayer banned inside and outside federal facilities. Its just like due process. Once you identify a situation where its not allowed then it effectively is completely not allowed as everything can be called that. Ironically protest is constitutionally protected speech or if prayer was not allowed for some other reason you would normally allow it when its a form of protest. Its so crazy illegal for them to do that.

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