▲ 838 ▼ Fascist paramilitary crashed into a U.S. citizen on her way to work, then dragged her out and arrested her [10/10/2025, Chicago] (Article) (cdn.social.linux.pizza) submitted 10 months ago by CubitOom@infosec.pub to c/thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world 248 comments fedilink hide all child comments Source Chicago woman dragged out of her car after colliding with ICE demands accountability
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 122 points 10 months ago (6 children) What the actual fuck are they doing? They caused that accident. I hope this woman sues the living shit out of them. permalink fedilink source hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago (6 children) When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions. There are accounts of every single action, and the next United States Justice Department will not handle it lightly. We fucked up by not finishing off the Confederacy in Reconstruction, but in the wise words of the honorable George W. Bush: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me twi— you can't get fooled again.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) G dubz deep cuts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) How we yearn for Georgy boy over the current POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago If I were this optimistic, I'd be the happiest motherfucker on earth. Unless we show up and start fucking these people up, we're just going to be commenting on these videos until that's illegal and we get scared of that too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Funny that you think the brownshirts will face any consequences. You mention Bush ironically, but he's the living example: a war criminal who never faced any consequences from his actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago never faced any consequences from his actions. excuse me, he was almost assaulted with a shoe at a press conference. If that's not consequences for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, I don't know what is permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions I wish I shared your optimism of the future.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Didn't most Nazis also get off scot free or even get jobs in science or the government? Only 12 high profile ones didn't. Of the 100,000 arrested for US trials, 2500 were identified ad "major war criminals". 142 were convicted of a crime. Not to mention US constant blocking of the prosecution of war criminals both within and outside. Probably >99% of fascist goons will get off with zero consequences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, but 2025 is not 1945. There's so much more technology that I think could enable tracking all of this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) I was wondering about this. Suppose there was a fair election in 2 years (I know, I know) and suppose the dems won... would they dismantle ICE and prosecute these scum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Not if they appoint Merrick Fucking Garland as AG,,,,, permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago Depends who wins the primaries. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CubitOom@infosec.pub [S] 43 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Americans can not sue federal "agents" according to US legal precedent and current interpretations of Section 1983 5 Words to Fix ICE [LegalEagle] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago (2 children) Well, that needs to be amended. Yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago It won't be. If anything they'll strip more rights away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago there are at least a couple of democrats that do keep raising an amendment! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 27 points 10 months ago Looks like vehicular assault to me. Not an accident. permalink fedilink source parent [–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago crash. it's called a crash. there was nothing accidental about it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Whatever they want. This is what dictatorship looks like, zero accountability to the people. Y'all need to do something about it already or it will keep getting worse until nothing you do can stop it, even collectively. If you haven't even done as much as talk with a friend about the state of things, I don't want to hear, 'But what can I do!?'. Go find people to figure that out with. permalink fedilink source parent [+] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Im not so sure they would be found "at fault" by an insurer if im honest. The damage appears to be on the front of her car, but on the side of theirs. An insurer would likely find that while the van obviously shouldn't have cut across, the hatchback is at fault. On the first day with any instructor they will tell you to drive to the conditions. That means that if ICE is present, and kidnapping people, drive slowly enough that you can stop if they cut over into your lane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) That kind of damage would only occur in two ways...either they sideswiped her while changing lanes (which is exactly what the video shows them doing)...or she drove into them at an angle (which is not what the video shows). Whether or not it was intentional, they cut her off. All she did was drive straight, in her own lane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I'm happy to concede that I'm wrong about this. When I was learning to drive my dad told me that if you have an accident, the insurer will assign fault to whomever has damage to the front of their vehicle. I've done some very brief research and determined that I've been completely wrong about this for the last 26 years. Thanks for that dad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I'll take all the humor I can get these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it's just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago (6 children) When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions. There are accounts of every single action, and the next United States Justice Department will not handle it lightly. We fucked up by not finishing off the Confederacy in Reconstruction, but in the wise words of the honorable George W. Bush: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me twi— you can't get fooled again.” permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) G dubz deep cuts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) How we yearn for Georgy boy over the current POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago If I were this optimistic, I'd be the happiest motherfucker on earth. Unless we show up and start fucking these people up, we're just going to be commenting on these videos until that's illegal and we get scared of that too. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Funny that you think the brownshirts will face any consequences. You mention Bush ironically, but he's the living example: a war criminal who never faced any consequences from his actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago never faced any consequences from his actions. excuse me, he was almost assaulted with a shoe at a press conference. If that's not consequences for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, I don't know what is permalink fedilink source parent [–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions I wish I shared your optimism of the future.. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Didn't most Nazis also get off scot free or even get jobs in science or the government? Only 12 high profile ones didn't. Of the 100,000 arrested for US trials, 2500 were identified ad "major war criminals". 142 were convicted of a crime. Not to mention US constant blocking of the prosecution of war criminals both within and outside. Probably >99% of fascist goons will get off with zero consequences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, but 2025 is not 1945. There's so much more technology that I think could enable tracking all of this. permalink fedilink source parent [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) I was wondering about this. Suppose there was a fair election in 2 years (I know, I know) and suppose the dems won... would they dismantle ICE and prosecute these scum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Not if they appoint Merrick Fucking Garland as AG,,,,, permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago Depends who wins the primaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (1 child) G dubz deep cuts permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) How we yearn for Georgy boy over the current POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) How we yearn for Georgy boy over the current POTUS. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago (2 children) Back in myyyyy dayyyy our installed republican president was a hapless moron directed to give gaffe-filled speeches every day while his vice president was evil incarnate and they both got super rich starting wars and committed war crimes which they got out of by wrecking the global economy and that’s the way we liked it! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago Satire has since died, which I mourn. Cheney also just died, which I don’t. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (2 children) As crazy as it is to say, Cheney > Trump. Both are absolute terrible pieces of shit, but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. He was just a greedy, power hungry tyrant, whereas Trump is also incredibly dumb, narcissistic, and cruel. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago Well except for the war criminal part, and frankly not to get all into it but there’s some shady-as-fuck 9/11 shit he’s tied to that’s just. Trump is worse, yeah. We’ll leave it there. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms I am calm. I am balanced. I don't want to fire anyone on Lemmy out of a giant cannon into the sun. There are emotions in my heart after reading this sentence other than hatred and anger. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT, NO HE FUCKING DIDN'T! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Whoa Cheney is dead, neat. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) In 10 years you'll all either be saying the same things you say about Cheney about Trump or you'll be screaming at the people who are. I stg, why do people feel this need to whitewash and rehabilitate the worst people on the planet just to emphasize how bad the current person is? Just say they're both awful and leave it at that, there's no need for this, "At least he was respectable" bullshit. Cheney broke countless rules and norms and was completely above the law. There were zero redeeming qualities about him, he was a fascist who directly paved the way for what's happening now. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Go back and read my actual comment then maybe. You seemed to just skip over whatever I actually said and made up a person in your own head to get mad at. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) You seem to think that I didn't read the parts where you were critical of Cheney. I absolutely did. That doesn't excuse the "at least he was respectable" part permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 child) Try again. Where did I say "he was respectable"? That's absolutely not what I said. Again I think you just want to mad at something so you make up random strawmen. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) but at least Cheney respected the general societal rule of law and norms. Which I paraphrased as saying he's respectable, it's all the same shit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago (1 child) Learn to read, jabroni. It's very much not the same. I said he respected the norms, you're saying I respected him. Two completely different meanings. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago (1 child) He didn't respect norms either lol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago K this is my last comment on this dumb conversation: again for the 4th time, I said "as compared to Trump, so the bar is low. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago If I were this optimistic, I'd be the happiest motherfucker on earth. Unless we show up and start fucking these people up, we're just going to be commenting on these videos until that's illegal and we get scared of that too. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Socialism_Everyday@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago (1 child) Funny that you think the brownshirts will face any consequences. You mention Bush ironically, but he's the living example: a war criminal who never faced any consequences from his actions. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago never faced any consequences from his actions. excuse me, he was almost assaulted with a shoe at a press conference. If that's not consequences for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, I don't know what is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago never faced any consequences from his actions. excuse me, he was almost assaulted with a shoe at a press conference. If that's not consequences for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, I don't know what is permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago When this is all over, these fascist goons will face justice for their actions I wish I shared your optimism of the future.. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Didn't most Nazis also get off scot free or even get jobs in science or the government? Only 12 high profile ones didn't. Of the 100,000 arrested for US trials, 2500 were identified ad "major war criminals". 142 were convicted of a crime. Not to mention US constant blocking of the prosecution of war criminals both within and outside. Probably >99% of fascist goons will get off with zero consequences. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, but 2025 is not 1945. There's so much more technology that I think could enable tracking all of this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] zd9@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago Yeah, but 2025 is not 1945. There's so much more technology that I think could enable tracking all of this. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (2 children) I was wondering about this. Suppose there was a fair election in 2 years (I know, I know) and suppose the dems won... would they dismantle ICE and prosecute these scum? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Not if they appoint Merrick Fucking Garland as AG,,,,, permalink fedilink source parent [–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago Depends who wins the primaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drhodl@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago Not if they appoint Merrick Fucking Garland as AG,,,,, permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago Depends who wins the primaries. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub [S] 43 points 10 months ago* (1 child) Americans can not sue federal "agents" according to US legal precedent and current interpretations of Section 1983 5 Words to Fix ICE [LegalEagle] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago (2 children) Well, that needs to be amended. Yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago It won't be. If anything they'll strip more rights away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago there are at least a couple of democrats that do keep raising an amendment! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 21 points 10 months ago (2 children) Well, that needs to be amended. Yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago It won't be. If anything they'll strip more rights away. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago there are at least a couple of democrats that do keep raising an amendment! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago It won't be. If anything they'll strip more rights away. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago there are at least a couple of democrats that do keep raising an amendment! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 27 points 10 months ago Looks like vehicular assault to me. Not an accident. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 25 points 10 months ago crash. it's called a crash. there was nothing accidental about it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] minorkeys@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago Whatever they want. This is what dictatorship looks like, zero accountability to the people. Y'all need to do something about it already or it will keep getting worse until nothing you do can stop it, even collectively. If you haven't even done as much as talk with a friend about the state of things, I don't want to hear, 'But what can I do!?'. Go find people to figure that out with. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com -13 points 10 months ago (1 child) Im not so sure they would be found "at fault" by an insurer if im honest. The damage appears to be on the front of her car, but on the side of theirs. An insurer would likely find that while the van obviously shouldn't have cut across, the hatchback is at fault. On the first day with any instructor they will tell you to drive to the conditions. That means that if ICE is present, and kidnapping people, drive slowly enough that you can stop if they cut over into your lane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) That kind of damage would only occur in two ways...either they sideswiped her while changing lanes (which is exactly what the video shows them doing)...or she drove into them at an angle (which is not what the video shows). Whether or not it was intentional, they cut her off. All she did was drive straight, in her own lane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I'm happy to concede that I'm wrong about this. When I was learning to drive my dad told me that if you have an accident, the insurer will assign fault to whomever has damage to the front of their vehicle. I've done some very brief research and determined that I've been completely wrong about this for the last 26 years. Thanks for that dad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I'll take all the humor I can get these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it's just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago (1 child) That kind of damage would only occur in two ways...either they sideswiped her while changing lanes (which is exactly what the video shows them doing)...or she drove into them at an angle (which is not what the video shows). Whether or not it was intentional, they cut her off. All she did was drive straight, in her own lane. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I'm happy to concede that I'm wrong about this. When I was learning to drive my dad told me that if you have an accident, the insurer will assign fault to whomever has damage to the front of their vehicle. I've done some very brief research and determined that I've been completely wrong about this for the last 26 years. Thanks for that dad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I'll take all the humor I can get these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it's just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children) I'm happy to concede that I'm wrong about this. When I was learning to drive my dad told me that if you have an accident, the insurer will assign fault to whomever has damage to the front of their vehicle. I've done some very brief research and determined that I've been completely wrong about this for the last 26 years. Thanks for that dad. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I'll take all the humor I can get these days. permalink fedilink source parent [–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it's just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago Oh, man. I probably laughed a little too hard at this. Thanks for that, my friend. I'll take all the humor I can get these days. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) That is a general rule of thumb to go by, but it's just that. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago I guess its relevant in the absence of additional information. However, if you have video, or witnesses, or accurate statements from those involved, those factors are more relevant. permalink fedilink source parent