▲ 204 ▼ Steam Controller 2 may be coming soon as dataminers discover new “Triton” codename in Steam update (frvr.com) submitted 10 months ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca 33 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 52 points 10 months ago (18 children) Please let it be good for replacing a mouse and also halfway affordable! permalink fedilink source hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago If it's like the pads on the Steam Deck (and it looks like they are), they are a great replacement for mouse. permalink fedilink source parent [–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (6 children) good for replacing a mouse What do you have in mind? I think the trackpads are already doing a fine job in situation where speed isn't important like fiddling in menus / GUIs, turn-based games or point & clicks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children) My use case is playing games like We Are Football 2024, the Football Manager games and others where a regular controller isn't precise enough from the couch, since I use my TV as a monitor and how low my coffee table is makes using a mouse awkward and ergonomically awful lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (4 children) Steam Input can be used to turn your joystick on your existing pad into a mouse. You could add a button for a speed modifier. It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff but it’ll unlock a lot of games for couch gameplay with your existing setup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff See, the problem is that the precision is essential. Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible? It's like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it's going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (9 children) Why do you worry about affordability? Valves hardware has always been affordable. I would be very surprised if the controller costs more than $80 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago (5 children) Because I'm poor, currently spending a lot on my weight loss/general health improvement project, and already having a great controller for games with regular controller support (Razer Wolverine V3 Pro) makes it harder for me to justify spending a lot on one only for games that would otherwise require a mouse 😁 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision "best of the best" hardware crowd. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago Well, affordable for the high quality they deliver, but not as competitively priced as some cheaper crap on the market. Yeah you get what you pay for, but you do have to expect to pay premium prices to Valve (for equally premium devices). permalink fedilink source parent [–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago With inflation and companies jacking prices up for no reason I would be extremely surprised if the controller came in under $120 USD permalink fedilink source parent [+] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago If it's like the pads on the Steam Deck (and it looks like they are), they are a great replacement for mouse. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] dukemirage@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago (6 children) good for replacing a mouse What do you have in mind? I think the trackpads are already doing a fine job in situation where speed isn't important like fiddling in menus / GUIs, turn-based games or point & clicks. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children) My use case is playing games like We Are Football 2024, the Football Manager games and others where a regular controller isn't precise enough from the couch, since I use my TV as a monitor and how low my coffee table is makes using a mouse awkward and ergonomically awful lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (4 children) Steam Input can be used to turn your joystick on your existing pad into a mouse. You could add a button for a speed modifier. It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff but it’ll unlock a lot of games for couch gameplay with your existing setup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff See, the problem is that the precision is essential. Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible? It's like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it's going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children) My use case is playing games like We Are Football 2024, the Football Manager games and others where a regular controller isn't precise enough from the couch, since I use my TV as a monitor and how low my coffee table is makes using a mouse awkward and ergonomically awful lol permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (4 children) Steam Input can be used to turn your joystick on your existing pad into a mouse. You could add a button for a speed modifier. It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff but it’ll unlock a lot of games for couch gameplay with your existing setup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff See, the problem is that the precision is essential. Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible? It's like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it's going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (4 children) Steam Input can be used to turn your joystick on your existing pad into a mouse. You could add a button for a speed modifier. It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff but it’ll unlock a lot of games for couch gameplay with your existing setup. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff See, the problem is that the precision is essential. Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible? It's like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it's going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) It won’t be perfect or good for precision mouse stuff See, the problem is that the precision is essential. Have you tried playing We Are Football with an otherwise excellent controller with hall effect sticks and everything, with the Steam input settings on the most mouselike possible? It's like trying to type with winter gloves on: possible to do if absolutely necessary, but it's going to be a very slow and frustrating experience with a lot of missing. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent [–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago On an unrelated topic, I used to work with someone who could type just fine with winter gloves on. She would do this all thentime because the office was so cold. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) Sadly not, first time I’ve heard of it. I’m still rocking my OG Steam Controller so I still use that for anything mouse-related on the couch. What about a trackball mouse? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 point 10 months ago What about a trackball mouse? Would still need to be on a flat surface, so the poor ergonomics problem would still persist permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (9 children) Why do you worry about affordability? Valves hardware has always been affordable. I would be very surprised if the controller costs more than $80 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 9 child comments replies: [–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago (5 children) Because I'm poor, currently spending a lot on my weight loss/general health improvement project, and already having a great controller for games with regular controller support (Razer Wolverine V3 Pro) makes it harder for me to justify spending a lot on one only for games that would otherwise require a mouse 😁 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision "best of the best" hardware crowd. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago Well, affordable for the high quality they deliver, but not as competitively priced as some cheaper crap on the market. Yeah you get what you pay for, but you do have to expect to pay premium prices to Valve (for equally premium devices). permalink fedilink source parent [–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago With inflation and companies jacking prices up for no reason I would be extremely surprised if the controller came in under $120 USD permalink fedilink source parent [+] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 months ago (5 children) Because I'm poor, currently spending a lot on my weight loss/general health improvement project, and already having a great controller for games with regular controller support (Razer Wolverine V3 Pro) makes it harder for me to justify spending a lot on one only for games that would otherwise require a mouse 😁 permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision "best of the best" hardware crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 6 points 10 months ago (4 children) I hear you but the previous steam controller was also only $60 like regular controllers. And Valve typically don’t have good margins on hardware, so it would surprise me if SC2 was suddenly super expensive. I could always be wrong, I mean it’s not like Valve have released a lot of hardware so the sample size is very smol. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent [–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision "best of the best" hardware crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 10 months ago (2 children) Even cheaper when they were selling the Steam Link at discount, I think it was $30 for the link and controller? I dont remember. I bought one, barely used the link, just used the controller. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThunderComplex@lemmy.today 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Argh the Steam Link is the one piece of valve hardware I regret not getting, though it’s basically been entirely outclassed by the Steam Deck permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] mathesonian@ttrpg.network 1 point 10 months ago I still have 2 of them that I still use on occasion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 1 point 10 months ago I think the price depends on which market they are going for. The Switch converts who want to dock a deck to their TV, or the Xbox Elite, high end precision "best of the best" hardware crowd. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 10 months ago Well, affordable for the high quality they deliver, but not as competitively priced as some cheaper crap on the market. Yeah you get what you pay for, but you do have to expect to pay premium prices to Valve (for equally premium devices). permalink fedilink source parent
[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago With inflation and companies jacking prices up for no reason I would be extremely surprised if the controller came in under $120 USD permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Ofiuco@piefed.ca 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent