β² 1538 βΌ Probably a good idea to go see how much storage will be necessary... (slrpnk.net) submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world 225 comments fedilink hide all child comments Does lemmy have any communities dedicated to archiving/hoarding data?
[β] PumpkinEscobar@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (2 children) I stumbled across this sort of fascinating area of doomsday prepping a few weeks back. https://prepperpress.com/usb/ A nice addition to that, don't just make it a USB, but a raspberry pi. So you'd have a reasonably low-powered computer you could easily take with you. Not suggesting this one as it seems a bit expensive to me, but https://www.prepperdisk.com/products/prepper-disk-premium-over-512gb-of-survival-content?view=sl-8978CA41 permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago* (2 children) Just built one of these myself. I went NVME M.2 instead of SD Card to avoid data corruption. I know SD Cards are fine if you don't write to them a lot but if you wanna update or add your own stuff, scares me. Plus NVME is just so much faster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) How would you access the info if electricity permanently goes out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 child) You find a generator, or solar panels, or wind mill, or water turbine, or a bicycle hooked up to a generator. If electricity permanently goes out then we're in a scavenger situation and it is time to start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are Hey finally a good use for all of those cars, grab the alternators out for small generators (since bicycles are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle: simple, small, easy to maintain and don't require complex fuels) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) You only need 20 watts of power. One of those dinky fold up solar panels would work. Add a USB power brick for cloudy days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child) 2W for a RPi Zero with data on a microSD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago Pretty much what Sinthesis said; USB power brick and/or solar panels. Both at the ready and tested. Also got a big ass battery backup that will charge off solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) at this point why not just use a phone running postmarketos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) You'd first have to buy a phone that can run postmarketos and these are much rarer than I wish they were. Is there even anything new that can run it? Pine64 stopped making phones and said they'll make a new one when they can make it RISC-V. Fairphone maybe I guess. 4 is listed as a supported device, but someone has gotten it working on 6 too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) there's lots of devices it runs on iirc, something like the pixel 3a can be had for less than a new rpi3b+ where I live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago But hardware ages and dies. Will you trust a pixel 3a for the next 10 years? I'd rather have a new device for this. permalink fedilink source parent [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago Cause if ya wanna go overboard like I did, 1TB of NVME storage, can add with SD Card if necessary. 16GB RAM. Very little learning curve for my part as I use SBCs often. Plus almost every Docker container and program I want works on RPi without any hassle. There's also more robust guides and community for RPi. Just my thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent [β] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Last I checked (3 years ago) postmarketOS drained the pinephone battery in record time :( permalink fedilink source parent
[β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 21 points 10 months ago* (2 children) Just built one of these myself. I went NVME M.2 instead of SD Card to avoid data corruption. I know SD Cards are fine if you don't write to them a lot but if you wanna update or add your own stuff, scares me. Plus NVME is just so much faster. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [β] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) How would you access the info if electricity permanently goes out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 child) You find a generator, or solar panels, or wind mill, or water turbine, or a bicycle hooked up to a generator. If electricity permanently goes out then we're in a scavenger situation and it is time to start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are Hey finally a good use for all of those cars, grab the alternators out for small generators (since bicycles are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle: simple, small, easy to maintain and don't require complex fuels) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) You only need 20 watts of power. One of those dinky fold up solar panels would work. Add a USB power brick for cloudy days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child) 2W for a RPi Zero with data on a microSD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago Pretty much what Sinthesis said; USB power brick and/or solar panels. Both at the ready and tested. Also got a big ass battery backup that will charge off solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[β] BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (3 children) How would you access the info if electricity permanently goes out? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 child) You find a generator, or solar panels, or wind mill, or water turbine, or a bicycle hooked up to a generator. If electricity permanently goes out then we're in a scavenger situation and it is time to start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are Hey finally a good use for all of those cars, grab the alternators out for small generators (since bicycles are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle: simple, small, easy to maintain and don't require complex fuels) permalink fedilink source parent [β] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) You only need 20 watts of power. One of those dinky fold up solar panels would work. Add a USB power brick for cloudy days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child) 2W for a RPi Zero with data on a microSD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago Pretty much what Sinthesis said; USB power brick and/or solar panels. Both at the ready and tested. Also got a big ass battery backup that will charge off solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Bob_Robertson_IX@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 10 months ago (1 child) You find a generator, or solar panels, or wind mill, or water turbine, or a bicycle hooked up to a generator. If electricity permanently goes out then we're in a scavenger situation and it is time to start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are Hey finally a good use for all of those cars, grab the alternators out for small generators (since bicycles are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle: simple, small, easy to maintain and don't require complex fuels) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) start taking apart things that are no longer necessary to build the things that are Hey finally a good use for all of those cars, grab the alternators out for small generators (since bicycles are the ultimate apocalypse vehicle: simple, small, easy to maintain and don't require complex fuels) permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 12 points 10 months ago (1 child) You only need 20 watts of power. One of those dinky fold up solar panels would work. Add a USB power brick for cloudy days. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child) 2W for a RPi Zero with data on a microSD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] utopiah@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago* (1 child) 2W for a RPi Zero with data on a microSD permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] notabot@piefed.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 child) You're going to need a monitor as well. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (1 child) I have a PaPiRus ePaper eInk e.g. https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/Pi%20Supply%20PDFs/PaPiRus_ePaper_Web.pdf and even though I don't know the watts for a refresh but I assume it's one of the lowest solution you can use. PS: FWIW if you don't refresh the display can keep the information on for months, if not years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] notabot@piefed.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) Eink displays are pretty awesome for this sort of thing, I repuposed a kobo ereader as a household info display and it worked nicely. Those PaPiRus screens look easier to interface with, but a little small for reading wikipedia articles. They'd do in a pinch, but the eyestrain would have me looking for a bigger solution. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] utopiah@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Totally, if you want to read or read / sketch then a reMarkable or PineNote would be much better. They'd consume a lot more energy (relatively speaking) but it's a different use case. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago Pretty much what Sinthesis said; USB power brick and/or solar panels. Both at the ready and tested. Also got a big ass battery backup that will charge off solar panels. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (3 children) at this point why not just use a phone running postmarketos? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) You'd first have to buy a phone that can run postmarketos and these are much rarer than I wish they were. Is there even anything new that can run it? Pine64 stopped making phones and said they'll make a new one when they can make it RISC-V. Fairphone maybe I guess. 4 is listed as a supported device, but someone has gotten it working on 6 too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) there's lots of devices it runs on iirc, something like the pixel 3a can be had for less than a new rpi3b+ where I live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago But hardware ages and dies. Will you trust a pixel 3a for the next 10 years? I'd rather have a new device for this. permalink fedilink source parent [β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago Cause if ya wanna go overboard like I did, 1TB of NVME storage, can add with SD Card if necessary. 16GB RAM. Very little learning curve for my part as I use SBCs often. Plus almost every Docker container and program I want works on RPi without any hassle. There's also more robust guides and community for RPi. Just my thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent [β] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Last I checked (3 years ago) postmarketOS drained the pinephone battery in record time :( permalink fedilink source parent
[β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago (1 child) You'd first have to buy a phone that can run postmarketos and these are much rarer than I wish they were. Is there even anything new that can run it? Pine64 stopped making phones and said they'll make a new one when they can make it RISC-V. Fairphone maybe I guess. 4 is listed as a supported device, but someone has gotten it working on 6 too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) there's lots of devices it runs on iirc, something like the pixel 3a can be had for less than a new rpi3b+ where I live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago But hardware ages and dies. Will you trust a pixel 3a for the next 10 years? I'd rather have a new device for this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 1 point 10 months ago (1 child) there's lots of devices it runs on iirc, something like the pixel 3a can be had for less than a new rpi3b+ where I live permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago But hardware ages and dies. Will you trust a pixel 3a for the next 10 years? I'd rather have a new device for this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 point 10 months ago But hardware ages and dies. Will you trust a pixel 3a for the next 10 years? I'd rather have a new device for this. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] techwithjake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago Cause if ya wanna go overboard like I did, 1TB of NVME storage, can add with SD Card if necessary. 16GB RAM. Very little learning curve for my part as I use SBCs often. Plus almost every Docker container and program I want works on RPi without any hassle. There's also more robust guides and community for RPi. Just my thoughts. permalink fedilink source parent
[β] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago Last I checked (3 years ago) postmarketOS drained the pinephone battery in record time :( permalink fedilink source parent
