▲ 1318 ▼ Apple Banned an App That Simply Archived Videos of ICE Abuses (www.404media.co) submitted 11 months ago by technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 223 comments fedilink hide all child comments Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 152 points 11 months ago (36 children) OR stop buying ANY of their products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 36 child comments replies: [–] athairmor@lemmy.world 118 points 11 months ago (29 children) Well, both, really. Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 45 points 11 months ago (28 children) If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (27 children) I, for one, have never used any of their shit. Don't project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] Triton420@mander.xyz 34 points 11 months ago (3 children) I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent [+] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children) Oh that's fantastic. Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical. Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using? And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent [–] F_State@midwest.social 9 points 11 months ago or both permalink fedilink source parent [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago* (2 children) If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren't willing to meet the moment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with. For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have. For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc. permalink fedilink source parent [–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don't tell them their actions are irredeemable and they've lost you for life. If you tell them you'll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You're essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don't mind them bending the knee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] disablist@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago* Yes, being vocal and public your cancelation/leaving is really important to make clear why this is happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 118 points 11 months ago (29 children) Well, both, really. Make sure they know you won’t be buying their process anymore because of these policies. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 29 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 45 points 11 months ago (28 children) If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (27 children) I, for one, have never used any of their shit. Don't project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] Triton420@mander.xyz 34 points 11 months ago (3 children) I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent [+] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children) Oh that's fantastic. Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical. Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using? And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 45 points 11 months ago (28 children) If people actually do this, they would find out next quarter But everyone loves talking big but keeps using these corpos products permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 28 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (27 children) I, for one, have never used any of their shit. Don't project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] Triton420@mander.xyz 34 points 11 months ago (3 children) I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent [+] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children) Oh that's fantastic. Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical. Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using? And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago (27 children) I, for one, have never used any of their shit. Don't project. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 27 child comments replies: [–] Triton420@mander.xyz 34 points 11 months ago (3 children) I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent [+] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children) Oh that's fantastic. Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical. Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using? And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Triton420@mander.xyz 34 points 11 months ago (3 children) I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 18 points 11 months ago (2 children) Correct. One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) Be the change you want to see. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socialsecurity@piefed.social 13 points 11 months ago I am already balls deep, chief. Helping family and friends while shilling it online. We got min 5 years best case scenario still permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent [–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (8 children) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children) What do you use? I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children) A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it. Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me. I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 child) Which is why I stay away from Google's products too. I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products. Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago (3 children) Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent [–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) Still gives money to Google though. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 11 months ago From Ebay it sure doesn't. That's like claiming Nintendo gets a cut of second hand cartridge sales. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] limonfiesta@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago That is what I use, but it still dependent upon Google, for both software and hardware. While I look forward to Linux phones being usable, but I haven't had that experience yet. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] disablist@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago At least you can still easily side load with Android, for the time being. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children) Oh that's fantastic. Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical. Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using? And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent [–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent [–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup? A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek! Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to. Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago Buying used is excellent permalink fedilink source parent
[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago* Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions. Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it... You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago Using Google products is implicit support for Google. Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context. So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 11 months ago (5 children) Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢 I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago* The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users. That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 11 months ago What makes you think I buy flagships? Also who cares about their gap, Linux phones are the next stop now. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] pandapoo@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago (1 child) How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago No, the thing here is that whenever one calls out company X then its fanboys will be like "company Y is worse". Which is absurd because X and Y don't care about any of you. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago* (2 children) If you are still using an apple phone in times like these then you are not taking your life serious enough. Big techs power will absolutely fuck things up in the coming series of purges in the US and people are totally unprepared for it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren't willing to meet the moment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with. For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have. For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 child) How does one prepare for it without sitting around being a bored luddite all day? Idk how to tell you this, but the rot is total, and Americans simply aren't willing to meet the moment permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with. For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have. For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 1 point 11 months ago Can you not have fun without big tech platforms? There is so much stuff out there to do. So many hobbies both digital and physical to entertain yourself with. For tech things there is the open source nerds that continue to make it possible to remove the influence of our tech overlords from our lives while still making use of the hardware we already have. For climate change there are local groups in many cities (at least in Germany) with the specific idea of creating future proof communities that will survive supply chain collapse for food, water, electricity, etc. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 child) Yes, but also make it clear why you are leaving. And as dirty as it feels, don't tell them their actions are irredeemable and they've lost you for life. If you tell them you'll never come back no matter what, then they no longer have to care about your opinion. You're essentially telling them that they should start catering more-heavily to the fascists now that the only potential customers don't mind them bending the knee. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] disablist@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago* Yes, being vocal and public your cancelation/leaving is really important to make clear why this is happening. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] disablist@lemdro.id 1 point 11 months ago* Yes, being vocal and public your cancelation/leaving is really important to make clear why this is happening. permalink fedilink source parent