Eyes Up's purpose is to "preserve evidence until it can be used in court." But it has been swept up in Apple's attack on ICE-spotting apps.

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[–] 23 points 11 months ago (27 children)

I, for one, have never used any of their shit.

Don't project.

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  • [–] 34 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don’t think he’s projecting on you personally, Apple has a $3.76T market cap. If people really were upset that number would go down

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  • [–] 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Correct.

    One guy standing tall is cute and all but that'd not how systematic change happens. Need like 10-15% of people to get in the fight to send a proper message

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  • [+] 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)
  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (8 children)

    Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

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  • [–] 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

    What do you use?

    I tried pine phone, but it wasn't usable as a daily driver.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago* (2 children)

    A random second hand smartphone, with a custom Android rom and no Google crap on it.

    Also I'm constantly behind a VPN, just in case they can still get some useful data from me.

    I consider that WAY better than buying a shitty iPhone

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  • [–] 7 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    Which is why I stay away from Google's products too.

    I guess can see how buying items second hand and flashing a ROM is not quite the same as buying a brand new phone running Android, but it seems unfair to then besmirch all iPhone users.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago

    Did I really say anything about iPhone users? I suggested to boycott Apple and I stated that I don't use their products.

    Then someone accused me of being an hypocrite, out of literally nowhere.

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  • [–] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    Not OP but GrapheneOS on a Pixel probably works quite well. Got independent app stores such as FDroid etc.

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  • [+] -6 points 11 months ago* (11 children)

    Oh that's fantastic.

    Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup?

    Obviously you won't have any Android in there, including Android ROMs which are based off of AOSP, as Google is just as, if not more, evil than Apple, and any project based off Google's OS is inherently unethical.

    Are you're using a Fair Phone? If not, what ethical phone are you using?

    And for your OS, is Sailfish or Ubuntu Touch?

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  • [–] 9 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Can you please tell me you're entirely ethical smartphone setup?

    A used Onpeplus 10 with Lineage on it

    au contrair, that's still Android!! We got em! Ez, kek!

    Yeah, and I didn't pay for it. I don't use Google services. You said ethics, right? I bought it used, Google doesn't profit and I don't use any of their services, so, they don't continue to.

    Seems pretty sound to me. Lemme know if you need a recc for a TV or anything. I'm good with those too. I like helping normies connect with technology.

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  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    Your argument seems to be "all things that aren't perfect are equally bad, so you must either boycott them all or never complain about any." This is obviously silly. We're talking about Apple and ICE, not every other company and every other bad thing.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago* (1 child)

    Cause using AOSP benefits Google's ability to limit their app restrictions.

    Tell me you don't understand open source without telling me you don't understand it...

    You give off some real "Well achkshuslly" enlightened centrist vibes here.

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  • [–] 0 points 11 months ago

    Using Google products is implicit support for Google.

    Which, by the way, I understand, but if you actually read the comments from top to bottom, you would have grasped the context.

    So tell me you didn't actually read the comment thread without telling me.

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  • [–] -1 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Oh no, we can't have ethical smartphones so we are forced to fund the worst corporations that exist 😢

    I guess I'll just go buy an overpriced piece of tech crap locked in a shitty proprietary environment that doesn't respect any of my rights...

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  • [+] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)
  • [–] 5 points 11 months ago*

    The person I was responding to was declaring that their choice to use an Android based phone makes them a more ethical consumer, and therefore a better person, then iPhone users.

    That's an absurd position, which was what my comment was highlighting.

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  • [–] 3 points 11 months ago (1 child)

    How about you just don't act high and mighty and pretend that your personal consumer choice of using an Android based OS somehow make you more ethical then those who use an iPhone.

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