▲ 287 ▼ Steam is now blocking NSFW updates for published adult-only games, according to a raunchy RPG developer (www.rockpapershotgun.com) submitted 11 months ago by themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/technology@lemmy.world 41 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (15 children) Ok... GoG it is. Fuck these shills permalink fedilink source hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 90 points 11 months ago (12 children) In the Reddit thread about the rejected NSFW updates, Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." "Valve isn't the problem here," Frenzin continues. "The big credit card companies are. If anything, Valve has stood up to them and pushed back. They could've simply nuked the 18+ section of Steam, but they didn't, they stuck up for developers. Obviously adult games make Valve money, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Steam's catalogue. Silksong itself probably earned Valve more than most NSFW titles put together. "Given that we're erogame devs, we're against any sort of censorship (as long as the content isn't sexualizing minors or nonconsensual in any way)," the developer comments. "But it's important to understand where the real problem lies, and it's not with Valve." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago (3 children) We need Digital Euro yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don't know your specific country, so maybe not in your country). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children) Valve, the only corporate that one is supposed to bootlick. And ironically it's a storefront for closed source software. A server full of little twats lol! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago (3 children) Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -50 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -11 points 11 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 child) GoG is also a Storefront for closed source software, genius. Do you think the software on GoG is open source? Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -5 points 11 months ago Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG? People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nima@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago from the article: Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." you're blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent [+] whereyaaat@lemmings.world -7 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Since the issue is with payment processors, we need to switch to crypto to avoid the censorship and abuse of power from banks. Anyone who doesn't understand this is a complete moron, but they are average so average people won't see it. Popularity == intelligence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nima@leminal.space 4 points 11 months ago this kind of mentality solves nothing. blaming people who don't know an alternative or who don't understand crypto is not going to solve this problem. nor is crypto a perfect solution by any means. you're suggesting a band-aid solution and shaking your fist at "normies". quite ironic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 90 points 11 months ago (12 children) In the Reddit thread about the rejected NSFW updates, Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." "Valve isn't the problem here," Frenzin continues. "The big credit card companies are. If anything, Valve has stood up to them and pushed back. They could've simply nuked the 18+ section of Steam, but they didn't, they stuck up for developers. Obviously adult games make Valve money, but it's a drop in the bucket compared to the rest of Steam's catalogue. Silksong itself probably earned Valve more than most NSFW titles put together. "Given that we're erogame devs, we're against any sort of censorship (as long as the content isn't sexualizing minors or nonconsensual in any way)," the developer comments. "But it's important to understand where the real problem lies, and it's not with Valve." permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago (3 children) We need Digital Euro yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don't know your specific country, so maybe not in your country). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children) Valve, the only corporate that one is supposed to bootlick. And ironically it's a storefront for closed source software. A server full of little twats lol! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago (3 children) Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -50 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -11 points 11 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 child) GoG is also a Storefront for closed source software, genius. Do you think the software on GoG is open source? Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -5 points 11 months ago Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG? People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nima@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago from the article: Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." you're blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 15 points 11 months ago (3 children) We need Digital Euro yesterday. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don't know your specific country, so maybe not in your country). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago (2 children) We dont; we need USA pay processors alternatives, and of those in EU we have plenty (but I don't know your specific country, so maybe not in your country). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Mihies@programming.dev 1 point 11 months ago (1 child) There are some (many is really a stretch) but not available in many countries nor supported by many merchants. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ThirdConsul@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* I wouldn't really know, I live in Poland and whenever I go West I'm surprised how backward technologically it is (France, Spain, Italy, Switzerland; only Portugal seems to be modern). Maybe not backward but lacking internet-related improvements, like being able to take care of government thingies online (I think Denmark is the best in that regard), pay using your national pay processors, get cheap internet, update your opening hours online, not take a 4h break midday... you know, common conveniences permalink fedilink source parent
[+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -55 points 11 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children) Valve, the only corporate that one is supposed to bootlick. And ironically it's a storefront for closed source software. A server full of little twats lol! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago (3 children) Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -50 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -11 points 11 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 child) GoG is also a Storefront for closed source software, genius. Do you think the software on GoG is open source? Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -5 points 11 months ago Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG? People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now! permalink fedilink source parent [–] Nima@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago from the article: Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." you're blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago (3 children) Yes, the devs who are the actual people affected by this issue, how dare they bootlick! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -50 points 11 months ago (2 children) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] yakko@feddit.uk 17 points 11 months ago (1 child) [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [+] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -11 points 11 months ago [removed by mod] permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (1 child) GoG is also a Storefront for closed source software, genius. Do you think the software on GoG is open source? Lmao permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -5 points 11 months ago Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG? People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrTambourineMan@lemmy.zip -5 points 11 months ago Yo Einstein, where did I ever say anything about GoG? People here a so simple when it comes to Valve. All rationality straight out the window. Yo, attention gamers, it is SALE on Steam right now! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nima@leminal.space 5 points 11 months ago from the article: Crimson Delight have only good things to say about Valve's handling of the situation. "I have to say the reviewer was kind and forthcoming, we didn't feel threatened or bullied in any way, and we got the feeling they were trying to do their best to help devs navigate the process," developer Frenzin writes. "But the fact of the matter is that Valve has payment processors breathing down their neck, and the rules keep getting stricter as time goes on." you're blaming the wrong people. nobody is bootlicking. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] whereyaaat@lemmings.world -7 points 11 months ago* (1 child) Since the issue is with payment processors, we need to switch to crypto to avoid the censorship and abuse of power from banks. Anyone who doesn't understand this is a complete moron, but they are average so average people won't see it. Popularity == intelligence permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Nima@leminal.space 4 points 11 months ago this kind of mentality solves nothing. blaming people who don't know an alternative or who don't understand crypto is not going to solve this problem. nor is crypto a perfect solution by any means. you're suggesting a band-aid solution and shaking your fist at "normies". quite ironic. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nima@leminal.space 4 points 11 months ago this kind of mentality solves nothing. blaming people who don't know an alternative or who don't understand crypto is not going to solve this problem. nor is crypto a perfect solution by any means. you're suggesting a band-aid solution and shaking your fist at "normies". quite ironic. permalink fedilink source parent