▲ 808 ▼ ICE to Buy Tool that Tracks Locations of Hundreds of Millions of Phones Every Day (www.404media.co) submitted 11 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to c/technology@lemmy.world 169 comments fedilink hide all child comments Archive: https://archive.is/wfmdL
[+] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 39 points 11 months ago* (4 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not just phone makers, but the telecom companies. Even if your phone shares no location data, it still checks in with a cell tower constantly. As you move around, so does your registration at a tower. It's accurate to about 2 miles. Match that with your known home address or work address and your location is easily guessed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago They don't need the cooperation of telecom providers. They receive the same signal you send to the cell tower. Even if the signal is encrypted so they can't see what you are sending, they can identify that you are sending. With enough receivers listening, they can identify your location to a pretty high accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent [–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago (1 child) Anything that polls location data can record it and sell it, probably more apps that sell it than don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jve@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* Yup. There are dozens of these contractors in our modern surveillance state, and it’s all bought up en masse by the government (and others!) for all sorts of purposes. Here’s a pretty good book on the subject https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/706321/means-of-control-by-byron-tau/ permalink fedilink source parent [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Everyone knows Apple said they would never do that and that one time defied the FBI about it. Are you saying Tim Cook would just lie let a false impression stand ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago Privacy policies are irrelevant here. They are picking up unique data as your phone communicates with a cell tower. You can do it with a $15 RTL-SDR receiver. Get a hundred receivers and you can pinpoint anybody in a city. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago (1 child) Not just phone makers, but the telecom companies. Even if your phone shares no location data, it still checks in with a cell tower constantly. As you move around, so does your registration at a tower. It's accurate to about 2 miles. Match that with your known home address or work address and your location is easily guessed permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago They don't need the cooperation of telecom providers. They receive the same signal you send to the cell tower. Even if the signal is encrypted so they can't see what you are sending, they can identify that you are sending. With enough receivers listening, they can identify your location to a pretty high accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago They don't need the cooperation of telecom providers. They receive the same signal you send to the cell tower. Even if the signal is encrypted so they can't see what you are sending, they can identify that you are sending. With enough receivers listening, they can identify your location to a pretty high accuracy. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 12 points 11 months ago (1 child) Anything that polls location data can record it and sell it, probably more apps that sell it than don't. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] jve@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* Yup. There are dozens of these contractors in our modern surveillance state, and it’s all bought up en masse by the government (and others!) for all sorts of purposes. Here’s a pretty good book on the subject https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/706321/means-of-control-by-byron-tau/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] jve@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* Yup. There are dozens of these contractors in our modern surveillance state, and it’s all bought up en masse by the government (and others!) for all sorts of purposes. Here’s a pretty good book on the subject https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/706321/means-of-control-by-byron-tau/ permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 9 points 11 months ago (1 child) Everyone knows Apple said they would never do that and that one time defied the FBI about it. Are you saying Tim Cook would just lie let a false impression stand ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Garbagio@lemmy.zip 5 points 11 months ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 7 points 11 months ago Privacy policies are irrelevant here. They are picking up unique data as your phone communicates with a cell tower. You can do it with a $15 RTL-SDR receiver. Get a hundred receivers and you can pinpoint anybody in a city. permalink fedilink source parent