▲ 72 ▼ X-ray scans reveal the hidden risks of cheap batteries (www.theverge.com) submitted 11 months ago by along_the_road@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org 7 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 child) "negative anode" ? You mean cathode ? You mean the overhang is "negative" ? So it's not an overhang then is it , it's recessed cathode, right ? But, other than tell you to buy TRUSTED BRANDS Is it actually true ? Are such batteries operating any different other than sending money to companies that don't pay the lumifield tax ? permalink fedilink source hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] B0rax@feddit.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Did you read the article? It explains it. The anodes inside each cells should protrude over the cathodes, so that there will not be a short in case something moves unexpectedly (like vibration, etc). The cells they have issues with don’t have consistent overhang, sometimes the cathodes protrude. Which could cause a short. Under normal circumstances they will operate just fine, but they are not as safe as properly manufactured cells. By the way, omitting safety features usually does not affect normal operation. But safety features are there to protect you in case something goes wrong. Like a seat belt or airbags. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) I mean did they check if that was actually true, like throwing a couple dozen just the "wrong way" against the wall and see if they actually catch on fire or are least internally short ? I mean, we can see there is still a lot of space between the end of the foil and the actual casing, how likely is it, in real life, that this would ever actually matter ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* They are not a product testing facility. There are norms and guidelines how these cells should look like and how they should be manufactured. They are showing that these cells are not up to spec. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) It's a function of ageing and cycling, those anodes will form dendrites and short sooner or later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago Do we have any example of this happening ? I mean, since it's 33% of all cheap batteries, this must be happening millions of times per day ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] B0rax@feddit.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 child) Did you read the article? It explains it. The anodes inside each cells should protrude over the cathodes, so that there will not be a short in case something moves unexpectedly (like vibration, etc). The cells they have issues with don’t have consistent overhang, sometimes the cathodes protrude. Which could cause a short. Under normal circumstances they will operate just fine, but they are not as safe as properly manufactured cells. By the way, omitting safety features usually does not affect normal operation. But safety features are there to protect you in case something goes wrong. Like a seat belt or airbags. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) I mean did they check if that was actually true, like throwing a couple dozen just the "wrong way" against the wall and see if they actually catch on fire or are least internally short ? I mean, we can see there is still a lot of space between the end of the foil and the actual casing, how likely is it, in real life, that this would ever actually matter ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* They are not a product testing facility. There are norms and guidelines how these cells should look like and how they should be manufactured. They are showing that these cells are not up to spec. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) It's a function of ageing and cycling, those anodes will form dendrites and short sooner or later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago Do we have any example of this happening ? I mean, since it's 33% of all cheap batteries, this must be happening millions of times per day ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 11 months ago (2 children) I mean did they check if that was actually true, like throwing a couple dozen just the "wrong way" against the wall and see if they actually catch on fire or are least internally short ? I mean, we can see there is still a lot of space between the end of the foil and the actual casing, how likely is it, in real life, that this would ever actually matter ? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* They are not a product testing facility. There are norms and guidelines how these cells should look like and how they should be manufactured. They are showing that these cells are not up to spec. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) It's a function of ageing and cycling, those anodes will form dendrites and short sooner or later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago Do we have any example of this happening ? I mean, since it's 33% of all cheap batteries, this must be happening millions of times per day ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] B0rax@feddit.org 2 points 11 months ago* They are not a product testing facility. There are norms and guidelines how these cells should look like and how they should be manufactured. They are showing that these cells are not up to spec. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago* (1 child) It's a function of ageing and cycling, those anodes will form dendrites and short sooner or later. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago Do we have any example of this happening ? I mean, since it's 33% of all cheap batteries, this must be happening millions of times per day ? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 point 11 months ago Do we have any example of this happening ? I mean, since it's 33% of all cheap batteries, this must be happening millions of times per day ? permalink fedilink source parent