▲ 419 ▼ Should Lemmy.ca defederate from Maga Place? (thelemmy.club) submitted 11 months ago by Sunshine@lemmy.ca to c/main@lemmy.ca 237 comments fedilink hide all child comments https://fedidb.com/servers/maga.place
[–] chisel@piefed.social 46 points 11 months ago (11 children) Defederate from 1 user? 🤣 permalink fedilink source hideshow 11 child comments replies: [–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 66 points 11 months ago (6 children) It’s always good to self contain problems before they get worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ZeroCool@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (5 children) Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (4 children) Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection. That's the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it's um, it's probably a fed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I wouldn't call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn't what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago If Nazi.whatever pops up Id want to defederate from that too if they had 1 member permalink fedilink source parent [–] RePsyche@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago lol 1 user! Yes, by all means, block and defederate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 5 points 11 months ago To be fair, there's @fuckamerica@maga.place that's been a real trooper on that instance and posting anti-fascist stuff all over the place. The whole instance has been flooded by them lol! Maybe that's what we should do, just turn it into an anti-Maga instance by flooding it with anti-fascist posts and comments. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca [S] 66 points 11 months ago (6 children) It’s always good to self contain problems before they get worse. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] ZeroCool@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (5 children) Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (4 children) Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection. That's the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it's um, it's probably a fed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I wouldn't call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn't what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ZeroCool@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago (5 children) Yep, and let’s not forget that MAGA started as a fringe movement… it’s like some people still refuse to fucking learn. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (4 children) Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection. That's the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it's um, it's probably a fed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I wouldn't call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn't what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (4 children) Lets not forget how networks underestimated Trump and led to him getting a lot of coverage, and it resulted in him gaining in popularity to get elected his first term to spread the infection. That's the mistake the left keeps making. They think logic can win out against effective faith based movements founded upon hate with a belief a higher power is on their side. And they waste time debating against something that appeals to the averge person who is desperate and angry. Which is why facism is trending. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it's um, it's probably a fed. permalink fedilink source parent [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I wouldn't call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn't what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 11 months ago The networks knew what they were doing and did it for reason$. Anyway, if maggoty is correct it's um, it's probably a fed. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago (2 children) I wouldn't call him a faith-based movement so much as a populist movement. He just happened to have some talking points that overlapped with the faith-based movements, and he leaned into those to gain his market share. That isn't what I would call a defense of faith-based movements, either, more a reference of causation vs. correlation. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago* (1 child) He throws out how something is the best or the worst and makes up false facts and figures and his followers takes him at his word. Same applies to many of his inner circle like RBK with what is supposed to be science. What else is it at that point other than faith? Its not grounded in facts but belief. Bringing evidence is dismissed as fake news because the movement doesn't care about that. It has the usual hallmarks of religion in my eyes. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 point 11 months ago Okay, that's fair. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago If Nazi.whatever pops up Id want to defederate from that too if they had 1 member permalink fedilink source parent
[–] RePsyche@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago lol 1 user! Yes, by all means, block and defederate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] cyborganism@piefed.ca 5 points 11 months ago To be fair, there's @fuckamerica@maga.place that's been a real trooper on that instance and posting anti-fascist stuff all over the place. The whole instance has been flooded by them lol! Maybe that's what we should do, just turn it into an anti-Maga instance by flooding it with anti-fascist posts and comments. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
