▲ 1048 ▼ We are not our emotions (thelemmy.club) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by slaacaa@lemmy.world to c/lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world 124 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) How about German? Being the other main language behind the drunk hodgepodge that is English, it's worth looking into that permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Do you know German? The "I am cold" one is interesting to me. "Mir" is German for "me" or "to me" roughly, right? So, would a rough literal translation be something like "to me it is cold"? I tried to learn some German at some point, but I didn't manage to learn enough to get comfortable with the various cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's really interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I never learned Latin. Instead I learned French and Spanish. So, I only know the descendants of Latin. Also cool how Latin has a verb for "to be angry", etc. English has "to anger" but that's to make someone else angry. I wonder why languages lost that form, because it seems really useful to have a single verb for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I'm pretty sure it's called the dative experiencer, and many other languages also do something similar (sometimes using prepositions in absence of case, but the point being that the same grammar used to denote the indirect object of verbs like "give" is also used here) permalink fedilink source parent [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, I ran out of columns. I looked at it and it's somewhere between English and one of the Romance languages. I'm scared but I'm brave is "Ich habe Angst, aber ich bin mutig" -> I have fear but I am brave permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Do you know German? The "I am cold" one is interesting to me. "Mir" is German for "me" or "to me" roughly, right? So, would a rough literal translation be something like "to me it is cold"? I tried to learn some German at some point, but I didn't manage to learn enough to get comfortable with the various cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's really interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I never learned Latin. Instead I learned French and Spanish. So, I only know the descendants of Latin. Also cool how Latin has a verb for "to be angry", etc. English has "to anger" but that's to make someone else angry. I wonder why languages lost that form, because it seems really useful to have a single verb for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I'm pretty sure it's called the dative experiencer, and many other languages also do something similar (sometimes using prepositions in absence of case, but the point being that the same grammar used to denote the indirect object of verbs like "give" is also used here) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Do you know German? The "I am cold" one is interesting to me. "Mir" is German for "me" or "to me" roughly, right? So, would a rough literal translation be something like "to me it is cold"? I tried to learn some German at some point, but I didn't manage to learn enough to get comfortable with the various cases. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's really interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I never learned Latin. Instead I learned French and Spanish. So, I only know the descendants of Latin. Also cool how Latin has a verb for "to be angry", etc. English has "to anger" but that's to make someone else angry. I wonder why languages lost that form, because it seems really useful to have a single verb for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I'm pretty sure it's called the dative experiencer, and many other languages also do something similar (sometimes using prepositions in absence of case, but the point being that the same grammar used to denote the indirect object of verbs like "give" is also used here) permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's really interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I never learned Latin. Instead I learned French and Spanish. So, I only know the descendants of Latin. Also cool how Latin has a verb for "to be angry", etc. English has "to anger" but that's to make someone else angry. I wonder why languages lost that form, because it seems really useful to have a single verb for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) That's really interesting, thanks for the detailed answer. I never learned Latin. Instead I learned French and Spanish. So, I only know the descendants of Latin. Also cool how Latin has a verb for "to be angry", etc. English has "to anger" but that's to make someone else angry. I wonder why languages lost that form, because it seems really useful to have a single verb for those. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] lvxferre@mander.xyz 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 month ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ytg@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago I'm pretty sure it's called the dative experiencer, and many other languages also do something similar (sometimes using prepositions in absence of case, but the point being that the same grammar used to denote the indirect object of verbs like "give" is also used here) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Yeah, I ran out of columns. I looked at it and it's somewhere between English and one of the Romance languages. I'm scared but I'm brave is "Ich habe Angst, aber ich bin mutig" -> I have fear but I am brave permalink fedilink source parent
