▲ 244 ▼ South Korean DJ 'shocked and scared' after groping at Japan event (www.japantimes.co.jp) submitted 3 years ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml 58 comments fedilink hide all child comments DJ Soda, who has more than 5 million Instagram followers, took to social media platforms to slam the unidentified individuals involved.
[–] False@lemmy.world 69 points 3 years ago (43 children) Sigh, Japan... permalink fedilink source hideshow 43 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -54 points 3 years ago (39 children) Woah woah hold on there buddy. You wouldn't blame Australia when some Australians are sexual assaulters would you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 71 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (4 children) Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem This, I agree with. Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. For this, I'd like to see the documentation you cite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago Yes, it's like that in much of the world. Australian laws until recently silenced SA survivors for example as I linked down below. It's good that you're learning about it and engaging with it. Rape culture must be stopped world over. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -17 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem this is literally true to everywhere on earth and if you didn’t know, then now you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cortell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse. They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Go muddy waters elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 44 points 3 years ago (4 children) I mean, I read this and went, “Goddammit, Osaka,” when I read where this takes place, and I live in Osaka. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Ahhh, that sucks to hear. It seemed like such a nice place while there, but I guess that's benefits of tourism. All of the cool parts, not around long enough for the bad :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 12 points 3 years ago Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 28 points 3 years ago (19 children) Australia doesn't have a well known problem with groping women on public transit as far as I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (18 children) I specifically mentioned Australia due to its rampant rape culture. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (15 children) Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) I rarely grope people, I usually keep my hooves to myself! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 2 points 3 years ago But do you often spit on people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Depends, are they in Bali? permalink fedilink source parent [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -56 points 3 years ago (2 children) Lmfao, as if rape and sexual assault don't happen literally everywhere on earth there are men. But hey, if you single out Japan, that means you can avoid acknowledging the misogyny in your own country/culture right? What a neat and not at all obvious trick that is... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago everywhere on earth there are men. Because it's just a male thing, right? In the commotion, she said, it was a woman who grabbed her breasts harder than any of the others involved. Assholes are assholes, it's not limited to one sex. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago Calls out someone for singleing out a group then proceeds to single out a larger group. Weird take ig permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -54 points 3 years ago (39 children) Woah woah hold on there buddy. You wouldn't blame Australia when some Australians are sexual assaulters would you? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 39 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 71 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (4 children) Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem This, I agree with. Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. For this, I'd like to see the documentation you cite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago Yes, it's like that in much of the world. Australian laws until recently silenced SA survivors for example as I linked down below. It's good that you're learning about it and engaging with it. Rape culture must be stopped world over. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -17 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem this is literally true to everywhere on earth and if you didn’t know, then now you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cortell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse. They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Go muddy waters elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 44 points 3 years ago (4 children) I mean, I read this and went, “Goddammit, Osaka,” when I read where this takes place, and I live in Osaka. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Ahhh, that sucks to hear. It seemed like such a nice place while there, but I guess that's benefits of tourism. All of the cool parts, not around long enough for the bad :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 12 points 3 years ago Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 28 points 3 years ago (19 children) Australia doesn't have a well known problem with groping women on public transit as far as I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (18 children) I specifically mentioned Australia due to its rampant rape culture. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (15 children) Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent [–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) I rarely grope people, I usually keep my hooves to myself! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 2 points 3 years ago But do you often spit on people? permalink fedilink source parent [–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 3 years ago Depends, are they in Bali? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] orcrist@lemm.ee 71 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (10 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (4 children) Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem This, I agree with. Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. For this, I'd like to see the documentation you cite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago Yes, it's like that in much of the world. Australian laws until recently silenced SA survivors for example as I linked down below. It's good that you're learning about it and engaging with it. Rape culture must be stopped world over. permalink fedilink source parent [+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -17 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem this is literally true to everywhere on earth and if you didn’t know, then now you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cortell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse. They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Go muddy waters elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 10 points 3 years ago (4 children) Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem This, I agree with. Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. For this, I'd like to see the documentation you cite. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] orcrist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social -1 points 3 years ago (2 children) This is specifically for train groping, for one, and literally has a whole section on what they are doing about it. I specifically wanted to know what was being cited here: Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago a perfect example I specifically was asking for documentation about "Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented". The article provided mentions the efforts they are making. I suppose you could do a basic web search. Meh. You make the claim, you provide the evidence. The actual reason I ask is that, if this specific sort of thing exists, it would be good to specifically target and fight it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -4 points 3 years ago Yes, it's like that in much of the world. Australian laws until recently silenced SA survivors for example as I linked down below. It's good that you're learning about it and engaging with it. Rape culture must be stopped world over. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -17 points 3 years ago* (3 children) Lack of effort to stop sexual assault in Japan is well documented. Victim blaming is common. This is a systemic problem this is literally true to everywhere on earth and if you didn’t know, then now you do. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Cortell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse. They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of. permalink fedilink source parent [–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Go muddy waters elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent [+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Cortell@lemmy.world 6 points 3 years ago Yes and some places (like Japan) are even worse. They have women only passenger trains on the subway because they need to not because they want to. Those don’t exist in most western countries that I know of. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stevedidWHAT@lemmy.world 3 points 3 years ago Go muddy waters elsewhere permalink fedilink source parent
[+] orcrist@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 44 points 3 years ago (4 children) I mean, I read this and went, “Goddammit, Osaka,” when I read where this takes place, and I live in Osaka. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Ahhh, that sucks to hear. It seemed like such a nice place while there, but I guess that's benefits of tourism. All of the cool parts, not around long enough for the bad :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 12 points 3 years ago Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (3 children) Ahhh, that sucks to hear. It seemed like such a nice place while there, but I guess that's benefits of tourism. All of the cool parts, not around long enough for the bad :( permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 12 points 3 years ago Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stopthatgirl7@kbin.social [S] 12 points 3 years ago Any place has good and bad. But it hits different when it’s a place you live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) I mean, the vast majority of people here are not committing sexual assault. There is certainly work to be done with the justice system regarding reporting and prosecuting crimes, but it's not like Japan or Osaka or Tokyo just condone SA. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dashmaybe@lemmygrad.ml 1 point 3 years ago Societies today are extremely large, which means it doesn't matter if a majority does something or not, if a per mille does it's a massive, society-defining problem. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 28 points 3 years ago (19 children) Australia doesn't have a well known problem with groping women on public transit as far as I'm aware. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 19 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (18 children) I specifically mentioned Australia due to its rampant rape culture. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (15 children) Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (18 children) I specifically mentioned Australia due to its rampant rape culture. Just because you're not aware of it doesn't mean it's not happening. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 18 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (15 children) Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent [–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 24 points 3 years ago (15 children) Just because I'm not aware of it also doesn't make the original post from False any less unexpected, I acknowledge my own ignorance but the point still stands. If it becomes known enough world-wide that Australia does indeed have a rampant SA problem that it become associated with the country as part of it's "culture", then it won't be any weirder to so a "Sigh, Australia..." when an article comes up talking about it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent
[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 3 years ago I think the point he was making is it’s never good to assume the whole country is like this when it’s individuals doing it, and I have to say I agree. That’s the kind of reasoning that led to people attacking Russian-American businesses and homes when the Ukraine invasion started permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -26 points 3 years ago (13 children) It is known world-wide. Western media has been covering it for years. I don't live in Australia and I know about it. Minimizing the rape culture of Australia only hurts its victims. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 13 child comments replies: [–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent [–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CalOtsu@kbin.social 11 points 3 years ago (7 children) Literally no one is doing that. There was no excuses or apologies made for sexual assault taking place in other places. There was no "minimizing" the fact that it happens elsewhere. You are perceiving a slight from nothing, or at best a short post of exasperation that it happened again. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -11 points 3 years ago* (6 children) When I say minimizing, I don't mean you personally making excuses or apologies for SA. Of course you wouldn't do that. I'm referring to the societal minimization where despite years of news and research, people still don't acknowledge it as a widespread problem. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago* (5 children) because people don't know about it? it's not like we didn't acknowledge it out of malice. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (4 children) Exactly comrade. It's not active malice, but the the lack of acknowledgement that constitute much of rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent [+] Neon@kbin.social 1 point 3 years ago [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Neon@kbin.social 3 points 3 years ago (2 children) It seems you didn't quite understand me. My bad, i should have formulated it in a better way. Let me reformulate it again: How can i acknowledge something i don't have any idea it exists? We weren't able to acknowledge Australia's rape culture, because we didn't know it was a Problem. You can't expect me to have acknowledged it previously, when this is the first time I've ever heard about it permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -3 points 3 years ago* (1 child) As I mentioned somewhere up the thread, I'm not talking about you personally. I'm talking about the lack of societal acknowledgement and awareness regarding the issue. When 63% of women working in the Australian parliament report being sexually harassed as I linked above, and there are years of newspaper articles from all over the world regarding it yet there's no societal awareness of the problem something has to change. I'm not talking about you personally of course. I'm sure that you are against rape culture that is prevalent in Australia, Japan, and much of the world over. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheControlled@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Dude, stop for a sec and breathe. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (3 children) This is exactly why everyone thinks you hexbears Lenin apologists are obnoxious. You made a specious argument which seems intended to pull a third nation into a completely unrelated story for no reason and then aggressively argue about it when people call you out. Take the L and try to contribute something other than rage for a bit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] orclev@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago Bit off topic here, but what's a hexbear? First time I've ever encountered that term. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Woah woah woah. Who's a hexbear? And stop minimizing rape culture. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] socsa@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 years ago My mistake. The same shit applies to lemmygrad, though I guess the lack of actual brigade makes it one tier less obnoxious. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SaakoPaahtaa@lemmy.world -5 points 3 years ago Sources: it is known. Common lemmygrad L permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Chozo@kbin.social 8 points 3 years ago (1 child) There are several countries where I've heard of this being a problem, but I've never heard this about Australia. Care to share some resources about what you're referring to? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Trudge@lemmygrad.ml -5 points 3 years ago* https://www.npr.org/2021/11/30/1060020412/australia-parliament-assault-sexual-harassment https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/aug/12/myths-make-it-almost-impossible-for-victim-survivors-of-sexual-assault-to-find-justice-in-australias-legal-system https://www.aihw.gov.au/reports/domestic-violence/sexual-assault-in-australia/contents/summary It's been a major, major issue reported on by news organizations all over the world, and acknowledged as a huge problem by the Australian government as well... permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 7 points 3 years ago (1 child) I rarely grope people, I usually keep my hooves to myself! permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] veloxization@yiffit.net 2 points 3 years ago But do you often spit on people? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] veloxization@yiffit.net 2 points 3 years ago But do you often spit on people? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] DessertStorms@kbin.social -56 points 3 years ago (2 children) Lmfao, as if rape and sexual assault don't happen literally everywhere on earth there are men. But hey, if you single out Japan, that means you can avoid acknowledging the misogyny in your own country/culture right? What a neat and not at all obvious trick that is... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago everywhere on earth there are men. Because it's just a male thing, right? In the commotion, she said, it was a woman who grabbed her breasts harder than any of the others involved. Assholes are assholes, it's not limited to one sex. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago Calls out someone for singleing out a group then proceeds to single out a larger group. Weird take ig permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Skyline969@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 years ago everywhere on earth there are men. Because it's just a male thing, right? In the commotion, she said, it was a woman who grabbed her breasts harder than any of the others involved. Assholes are assholes, it's not limited to one sex. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 years ago Calls out someone for singleing out a group then proceeds to single out a larger group. Weird take ig permalink fedilink source parent