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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (4 children)

In my experience economies based around tourism have much greater inequality, with a few wealthy landowners/business owners raking it in, scumbag tourists throwing their weight around and any non wealthy locals forced into low wage service work and treated like shit in a high cost of living environment. Fuck tourism and fuck tourists.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As usual, seems he underlying problem is capitalism, not people wanting to visit nice places.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Its generally the people whom capitalism has rewarded who can afford tourism. And goddamn are they obnoxious about it. Maybe buy a house in your community and spend 4 months there and vote in your elections. Fuckin' scum.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Homie there's a lot of families who have to save for years to go on one family vacation, it's not all Uber rich lol.

Additionally local issues in tourist destinations like low pay for service workers is entirely unrelated to the tourism itself, rather shitty business practices.

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[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think there's little difference between the unrecognized harms that tourists do and the increasingly recognized harms that expats do, see for instance the Andrew Callahan Channel 5 piece recently on the flood of American expats in Mexico causing gentrification, housing shortage caused by air bnb and skyrocketing prices, along with them not acculturating and exploiting and abusing the people who natively live there any number of ways. Solidarity forever with those affected by American expats, as plenty have fled the cities to live in permanent vacation with their shady money here at home too.

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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

But that wasn't brought up at all before now lmao. I don't disagree with what you're saying at all.

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[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

increasingly recognized harms that expats do

I'd argue that is also an oversimplification to one region. I grew up in an eastern EU country, and I worked hard to get a good education so I can get a job that is more on the side of R&D and making new things. But then western EU companies bought up everything that does stuff like that, laid off all the engineers and only left menial manufacturing jobs in the country.

And when I then grab my things and move over to their countries where those jobs went, you know, we all signed "freedom of movement of people and capital", people there are complaining that the best paying jobs are not in their local language but in English now. And then that they are indignant that they have to do at least a fraction of what I needed to do, like be comfortable using 2-3 languages professionally, with a foreign one being the default. And that I can pay more for an apartment than them or their kids, driving up prices. Like I want to pay that much money.

So yeah, I love to live in a country that has people call me names instead of my own, but this is globalisation.

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