▲ 1491 ▼ Microsoft Finally Realizes Nobody Wants Its Windows 11 Preinstalled Bloatware (www.pcmag.com) submitted 3 years ago by fne8w2ah@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 430 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 years ago (1 child) The package manag- oh it's windows right permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] xill47@lemm.ee 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago IK I was just poking fun at windows, but the average user (a grandma or other non-tech literate person) won't know it even exists, plus it doesn't resolve the issue that, aside from a few maybe legal scripts, you can't uninstall edge. Still a step in the good direction though. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] xill47@lemm.ee 15 points 3 years ago (3 children) It has built in package manager now (winget install Mozilla.Firefox would install Firefox on clean Win11 installation). permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [+] Abnorc@lemm.ee 2 points 3 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent [–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago IK I was just poking fun at windows, but the average user (a grandma or other non-tech literate person) won't know it even exists, plus it doesn't resolve the issue that, aside from a few maybe legal scripts, you can't uninstall edge. Still a step in the good direction though. permalink fedilink source parent
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[–] msage@programming.dev 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) So YoU hAvE tO uSe ThE cOmManD lInE permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] icesentry@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) No, the cli is just a wrapper around the microsoft store app permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Fun fact: Every Windows command line command actually just spams xdotool through the X11 server on WSL in order to do the equivalent action through the Windows GUI. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 1 point 3 years ago (1 child) Excuse me, more info on this, some sources? Thank you very much for your time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago (1 child) Oh. Funny. I was actually wondering when I posted this if anyone would take me seriously— Though I was imagining my abusers pretending to take it seriously in bad faith in order to hurt my credibility, and then how I would then have to explain myself to well-meaning people who might just be less familiar with the Linux-side systems I mentioned. I was joking. Saying cmd.exe uses WSL→X11→xdotool→GUI to operate is a bit like saying "Every Toyota is secretly powered by a tiny little Honda with a tiny little man driving on a treadmill that's connected to the wheels under the hood". (xdotool is basically just a keyboard and mouse macro thing— So maybe you can imagine how silly it would be if you typed in cd or ls/dir or whatever and it just took over control of your mouse and clicked on the "File Explorer" from the "Start Menu".) It would be such an absurd and Frankensteinian design that I find the thought of it intrinsically funny. Sorry for the misunderstanding. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] rodolfo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 years ago (1 child) uh ok. it was... strange indeed. Couldn't wrap my head around that wsl... you really left me confused ah ah. also, I couldn't catch all of the joke complexity in more than one glance ah ah. oh god, gotten really slow.... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Intralexical@lemmy.world 2 points 3 years ago Eh, don't worry about it. I'm worryingly niche in the software I use, and it was a really niche joke and a bit of a stretch even for me. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] frippa@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 years ago IK I was just poking fun at windows, but the average user (a grandma or other non-tech literate person) won't know it even exists, plus it doesn't resolve the issue that, aside from a few maybe legal scripts, you can't uninstall edge. Still a step in the good direction though. permalink fedilink source parent