▲ 690 ▼ Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons (www.theguardian.com) submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world 443 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 41 points 1 year ago (3 children) I refuse to use it because it's shit. We are not the same. permalink fedilink source hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Works relatively well for image editing Else yea I would agree, sometimes it's just shoved for nothing, but 90% seems like too much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 year ago Brave's AI search results are pretty good I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited) permalink fedilink source parent [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Every last bit of it? What is your stance on use of AI for tasks such as data analysis of massive sets for scientific research, or procedural automation of massive operations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) AI doesn't exist, machine learning algorithms can be useful and are used with no controversy, generative bullshit is basically useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] danzabia@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -4 points 1 year ago* Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -5 points 1 year ago* That's... not how it works. ML is AI also.. Don't talk about things you don't understand, please, to avoid misinforming other permalink fedilink source parent [–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, I am also frequently accosted by Google's data analysis of massive sets for scientific research. I can't tell you how many times they've forcefully inserted research analysis of large data sets into my search results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What? permalink fedilink source parent [+] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -8 points 1 year ago *because you don't know how to use it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 14 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yup, these things are still garbage for >90% of all applications people are jamming them into. Breathed a sigh of relief when my company CEO said he doesn't see us using AI for more than can center routing for at least the next several years. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Works relatively well for image editing Else yea I would agree, sometimes it's just shoved for nothing, but 90% seems like too much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 year ago Brave's AI search results are pretty good I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) Works relatively well for image editing Else yea I would agree, sometimes it's just shoved for nothing, but 90% seems like too much permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 year ago Brave's AI search results are pretty good I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] fishy@lemmy.today 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Don't misunderstand, LLM's are fantastic for certain applications and it makes sense to use them. But seriously GTFO my email and search results. Generated speech? Ew. Generated videos? Nah. Ordering for me at a restaurant? Just kill me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 year ago Brave's AI search results are pretty good I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 0 points 1 year ago Brave's AI search results are pretty good I don’t dislike AI generated videos as long as they are funny with some meta (making fun of the absurdity of what characters do for example - the brainrot potential is unlimited) permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children) Every last bit of it? What is your stance on use of AI for tasks such as data analysis of massive sets for scientific research, or procedural automation of massive operations? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) AI doesn't exist, machine learning algorithms can be useful and are used with no controversy, generative bullshit is basically useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] danzabia@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -4 points 1 year ago* Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -5 points 1 year ago* That's... not how it works. ML is AI also.. Don't talk about things you don't understand, please, to avoid misinforming other permalink fedilink source parent [–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, I am also frequently accosted by Google's data analysis of massive sets for scientific research. I can't tell you how many times they've forcefully inserted research analysis of large data sets into my search results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (2 children) AI doesn't exist, machine learning algorithms can be useful and are used with no controversy, generative bullshit is basically useless. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] danzabia@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -4 points 1 year ago* Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -5 points 1 year ago* That's... not how it works. ML is AI also.. Don't talk about things you don't understand, please, to avoid misinforming other permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children) You're using a lot of very loosely defined terms with a lot of certainty. Machine learning is AI, we just usually apply it to the more simple versions of it. Where do you personally draw the line? I fully understand the plethora of risks, downsides, and injustices that can potentially be involved in the matter, but I legitimately don't understand the extremist level hatred that some people express to anything that could hold the title of AI. To me, it parallels with someone saying that they hate ionizing radiation. Frequently, it's also bad, and your entirely reasonable to try and avoid it on a daily basis, but it also has many uses that are beneficial and life-saving. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] danzabia@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -4 points 1 year ago* Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] danzabia@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago Don't try to argue with the lemmy anti-AI crowd, it's not worth it. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -4 points 1 year ago* Same thinking as people who hate crypto for a part of it They just sound completely dumb, yet it's the majority of people here For a place that welcomes people, inclusivity and hate discrimination, there's a lot of generalization of a lot of topics permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -5 points 1 year ago* That's... not how it works. ML is AI also.. Don't talk about things you don't understand, please, to avoid misinforming other permalink fedilink source parent
[–] petrol_sniff_king@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) Yes, I am also frequently accosted by Google's data analysis of massive sets for scientific research. I can't tell you how many times they've forcefully inserted research analysis of large data sets into my search results. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago What? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Electricd@lemmybefree.net -8 points 1 year ago *because you don't know how to use it permalink fedilink source parent