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Meet the AI vegans. They are refusing to use artificial intelligence for environmental, ethical and personal reasons (www.theguardian.com)
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[–] 21 points 1 year ago (1 child)

Yeah, I too hate those hypcrites who complain about the massive environmental impact of AI, then drive a 10 mile round trip to buy a burger made from a cow raised on soy.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Would you happen to be a vegan who is also anti-car by any chance?

    If so, I can recommend fuckcars on ml as they share your viewpoint.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    No I'm a meat eater who is anti-car! I'm more getting at how people have latched on to the energy use of AI models without realising the huge energy usage that goes into their daily lives.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    are the two comparable? genuinely asking because i suspect AI usage is an order of magnitude or so more...

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  • [–] 6 points 1 year ago

    You're right that there's orders of magnitude difference, but its the driving that's far more! One query to a chatGPT type model uses roughly 1Wh of energy, which is about the same as is released in burning one droplet of gasoline.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Definitely a good point to raise; thanks for doing so!

    Here's a fun one - where do you stand on those forced to commute dur to housing prices near inner city work (e.g. I live in near poverty paying a mortgage for a small place near where I work due to poor public transport so I can walk to work - how does this figure into the anti-car vision? Is it an employer issue, a government issue, a personal sacrifice, or something else entirely?)

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  • [–] 4 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Its an urban planning and transport issue essentially. Medium density housing (think 4-6 story blocks) allows enough people to live in an area that it becomes feasible to have trams/light rail serving that area.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 year ago (1 child)

    Good to know, I'll go ask one if the profs in our school of built environment for more info. See if they can offer more insight there.

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