▲ 419 ▼ “Red meat allergy” from tick bites is spreading both in US and globally (arstechnica.com) submitted 1 year ago by Gsus4@mander.xyz to c/science@lemmy.world 110 comments fedilink hide all child comments cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/post/1116242 Woke ticks are out to turn the US South into soyboys > > (did I do that right?)
[–] Auk@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (10 children) Transition to eating the rich. permalink fedilink source hideshow 10 child comments replies: [–] stu42j@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (8 children) isn't that red meat though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Is lard red meat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) As someone currently with higher-than-average body fat who isn't worth billions, I lol'd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 1 year ago Þat's þe winning strategy: be unappetizing and too poor to benefit society by being eaten. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 3 points 1 year ago Nah most of them are white. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) I assume there's a reason the euphemism for human meat is 'long pork,' not 'long beef.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago Pork is red meat permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Humans, pigs and naked mole rats are the only mammals which never have fur. The mole rats are incidentally NOT found in African diets (afaik), but wild boars and (disturbingly) humans (mind you, there is a nuance) have. The nuance is the source. Many cultures around the world consumed their dead but are not killers. They had no choice sometimes, every scrap of food had to be conserved. Also, it was rare but a few cultures ate those they killed in battle, which is far less understandable, but not the same thing as "savages who eat other people" which is not just insulting but factually wrong. If you want to criticize the many, many peoples of Africa over that kind of awfulness, point to 20th and 21st Century genocides between tribes during the attempts to create modern nations, not to cultures that were - yes - often oppressed by European overlords and vilified to oppress them. We don't know enough to say that it was voluntary, famines and droughts and poor hunting seasons happened over history across the world. The other nuance is, if you ever end up like the Donner Party, DO NOT EAT THEIR BRAIN. That's how you get Kuru. Nasty stuff, it's a genetic illness that can be acquired by eating other people's brains (hence why nobody eats brains except the zombies in memes). Trust me, you'd prefer to starve to death even considering it's already like Soylent Green in that hypothetical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago I'm just going to say it, I never implied that cannibalism is commonplace in modern Africa and my point - if hard to convey - is that even something like eating human flesh can be part of a respectable tradition, even if the actual meat should be substituted symbolically with beef or pork for health reasons. I'm truly sorry it came across as disrespectful, I was not intending to demonize anyone so much as point out that Africa is an entire continent and many cultures live there. Being strange is not wrong, even if that includes eating the deceased at the funeral. Killing others is, but I fully acknowledge that that is not the same thing and that it is something every culture has done regardless of where in the world you look or what color their skin is. permalink fedilink source parent [–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Mmmm porky pig. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stu42j@piefed.social 5 points 1 year ago (8 children) isn't that red meat though? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Is lard red meat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) As someone currently with higher-than-average body fat who isn't worth billions, I lol'd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 1 year ago Þat's þe winning strategy: be unappetizing and too poor to benefit society by being eaten. permalink fedilink source parent [–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 3 points 1 year ago Nah most of them are white. permalink fedilink source parent [–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) I assume there's a reason the euphemism for human meat is 'long pork,' not 'long beef.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago Pork is red meat permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Humans, pigs and naked mole rats are the only mammals which never have fur. The mole rats are incidentally NOT found in African diets (afaik), but wild boars and (disturbingly) humans (mind you, there is a nuance) have. The nuance is the source. Many cultures around the world consumed their dead but are not killers. They had no choice sometimes, every scrap of food had to be conserved. Also, it was rare but a few cultures ate those they killed in battle, which is far less understandable, but not the same thing as "savages who eat other people" which is not just insulting but factually wrong. If you want to criticize the many, many peoples of Africa over that kind of awfulness, point to 20th and 21st Century genocides between tribes during the attempts to create modern nations, not to cultures that were - yes - often oppressed by European overlords and vilified to oppress them. We don't know enough to say that it was voluntary, famines and droughts and poor hunting seasons happened over history across the world. The other nuance is, if you ever end up like the Donner Party, DO NOT EAT THEIR BRAIN. That's how you get Kuru. Nasty stuff, it's a genetic illness that can be acquired by eating other people's brains (hence why nobody eats brains except the zombies in memes). Trust me, you'd prefer to starve to death even considering it's already like Soylent Green in that hypothetical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago I'm just going to say it, I never implied that cannibalism is commonplace in modern Africa and my point - if hard to convey - is that even something like eating human flesh can be part of a respectable tradition, even if the actual meat should be substituted symbolically with beef or pork for health reasons. I'm truly sorry it came across as disrespectful, I was not intending to demonize anyone so much as point out that Africa is an entire continent and many cultures live there. Being strange is not wrong, even if that includes eating the deceased at the funeral. Killing others is, but I fully acknowledge that that is not the same thing and that it is something every culture has done regardless of where in the world you look or what color their skin is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 year ago (2 children) Is lard red meat? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) As someone currently with higher-than-average body fat who isn't worth billions, I lol'd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 1 year ago Þat's þe winning strategy: be unappetizing and too poor to benefit society by being eaten. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago (1 child) As someone currently with higher-than-average body fat who isn't worth billions, I lol'd. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 1 year ago Þat's þe winning strategy: be unappetizing and too poor to benefit society by being eaten. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 point 1 year ago Þat's þe winning strategy: be unappetizing and too poor to benefit society by being eaten. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 3 points 1 year ago Nah most of them are white. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (3 children) I assume there's a reason the euphemism for human meat is 'long pork,' not 'long beef.' permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago Pork is red meat permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Humans, pigs and naked mole rats are the only mammals which never have fur. The mole rats are incidentally NOT found in African diets (afaik), but wild boars and (disturbingly) humans (mind you, there is a nuance) have. The nuance is the source. Many cultures around the world consumed their dead but are not killers. They had no choice sometimes, every scrap of food had to be conserved. Also, it was rare but a few cultures ate those they killed in battle, which is far less understandable, but not the same thing as "savages who eat other people" which is not just insulting but factually wrong. If you want to criticize the many, many peoples of Africa over that kind of awfulness, point to 20th and 21st Century genocides between tribes during the attempts to create modern nations, not to cultures that were - yes - often oppressed by European overlords and vilified to oppress them. We don't know enough to say that it was voluntary, famines and droughts and poor hunting seasons happened over history across the world. The other nuance is, if you ever end up like the Donner Party, DO NOT EAT THEIR BRAIN. That's how you get Kuru. Nasty stuff, it's a genetic illness that can be acquired by eating other people's brains (hence why nobody eats brains except the zombies in memes). Trust me, you'd prefer to starve to death even considering it's already like Soylent Green in that hypothetical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago I'm just going to say it, I never implied that cannibalism is commonplace in modern Africa and my point - if hard to convey - is that even something like eating human flesh can be part of a respectable tradition, even if the actual meat should be substituted symbolically with beef or pork for health reasons. I'm truly sorry it came across as disrespectful, I was not intending to demonize anyone so much as point out that Africa is an entire continent and many cultures live there. Being strange is not wrong, even if that includes eating the deceased at the funeral. Killing others is, but I fully acknowledge that that is not the same thing and that it is something every culture has done regardless of where in the world you look or what color their skin is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AldinTheMage@ttrpg.network 15 points 1 year ago Pork is red meat permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) Humans, pigs and naked mole rats are the only mammals which never have fur. The mole rats are incidentally NOT found in African diets (afaik), but wild boars and (disturbingly) humans (mind you, there is a nuance) have. The nuance is the source. Many cultures around the world consumed their dead but are not killers. They had no choice sometimes, every scrap of food had to be conserved. Also, it was rare but a few cultures ate those they killed in battle, which is far less understandable, but not the same thing as "savages who eat other people" which is not just insulting but factually wrong. If you want to criticize the many, many peoples of Africa over that kind of awfulness, point to 20th and 21st Century genocides between tribes during the attempts to create modern nations, not to cultures that were - yes - often oppressed by European overlords and vilified to oppress them. We don't know enough to say that it was voluntary, famines and droughts and poor hunting seasons happened over history across the world. The other nuance is, if you ever end up like the Donner Party, DO NOT EAT THEIR BRAIN. That's how you get Kuru. Nasty stuff, it's a genetic illness that can be acquired by eating other people's brains (hence why nobody eats brains except the zombies in memes). Trust me, you'd prefer to starve to death even considering it's already like Soylent Green in that hypothetical. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago I'm just going to say it, I never implied that cannibalism is commonplace in modern Africa and my point - if hard to convey - is that even something like eating human flesh can be part of a respectable tradition, even if the actual meat should be substituted symbolically with beef or pork for health reasons. I'm truly sorry it came across as disrespectful, I was not intending to demonize anyone so much as point out that Africa is an entire continent and many cultures live there. Being strange is not wrong, even if that includes eating the deceased at the funeral. Killing others is, but I fully acknowledge that that is not the same thing and that it is something every culture has done regardless of where in the world you look or what color their skin is. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheSaddestMan@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago I'm just going to say it, I never implied that cannibalism is commonplace in modern Africa and my point - if hard to convey - is that even something like eating human flesh can be part of a respectable tradition, even if the actual meat should be substituted symbolically with beef or pork for health reasons. I'm truly sorry it came across as disrespectful, I was not intending to demonize anyone so much as point out that Africa is an entire continent and many cultures live there. Being strange is not wrong, even if that includes eating the deceased at the funeral. Killing others is, but I fully acknowledge that that is not the same thing and that it is something every culture has done regardless of where in the world you look or what color their skin is. permalink fedilink source parent