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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 85 points 1 year ago (29 children) I'm sick of religious sex freaks forcing others to adhere to their puritan fetishes We need to ban organized religion permalink fedilink source hideshow 29 child comments replies: [+] stepan@lemmy.ca -43 points 1 year ago (15 children) Or just live and let live... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (7 children) Sure, but since orgaanised religions can't help to force others to live by their standards, they need to get out of the way. I'm fine with people needing a comfort measure, even if its in the form of an invisibile friend. Whatever helps people sleep at night. However, when they try to force their ideals down everybody elses throat thats a big no. So, since they can't 'live and let live' they need to go the way of the dodo, fuck off, and leave the rest of society alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) Meh, I consider religions as political movements. When they go crazy fundamentalist, try to take over and become destructive, sure, shut them down. But not just based on their future potential to turn destructive, that can happen to any ideology if the conditions are right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) But what undeniable good thing comes from religion? It's not just that they have the potential for destruction and hate, it's that those are the only possible outcomes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago A tolerant society can not tolerate intolerance. One side will attempt to "just live", but the intolerant side is incapable of "letting live", and they will not stop until they replace tolerance with their system of hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 28 points 1 year ago Why should we? They don't let us live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago We've tried that one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago Live and let live is pretty much the antithesis of organised religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago if that was an option we would not have to have this discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And trickle down some economy while we are at it permalink fedilink source parent [+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -45 points 1 year ago (12 children) Why did we get refugees from r/atheism? rolls eyes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Ew, when did we get reddit's cringy appeals to the audience talking past the original poster in an ineffectual attempt to throw shade? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) People did that on forums before Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (4 children) The majority of the secular world are atheists. Don't pretend like it is some small subsection just because you live in a bubble of whatever religion you were born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Agnostics. Not necessarily atheists. And they sure as hell aren't sam harris type dickheads about it like this lemmy thread has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Oh good so I'm not alone permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* Agnostic sounds like a sub-category of atheism like it is with different beliefs under theism. Ie. It's Theism vs Atheism, and then everything below the two. If you don't believe or don't know if you should believe, then you're not really a theist, making it atheist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Bro I don't believe in God either. To be honest sometimes I wish I did. Regardles my problem isn't with atheism but with specifcally Reddit Atheism permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mwa -3 points 1 year ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Atheism has never been used as the justification for a genocide - can any major religion claim the same? It's obviously an extreme example, but at the same time it's not entirely unreasonable to feel superior when comparisons like that are so easy to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mwa -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] stepan@lemmy.ca -43 points 1 year ago (15 children) Or just live and let live... permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 15 child comments replies: [–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (7 children) Sure, but since orgaanised religions can't help to force others to live by their standards, they need to get out of the way. I'm fine with people needing a comfort measure, even if its in the form of an invisibile friend. Whatever helps people sleep at night. However, when they try to force their ideals down everybody elses throat thats a big no. So, since they can't 'live and let live' they need to go the way of the dodo, fuck off, and leave the rest of society alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) Meh, I consider religions as political movements. When they go crazy fundamentalist, try to take over and become destructive, sure, shut them down. But not just based on their future potential to turn destructive, that can happen to any ideology if the conditions are right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) But what undeniable good thing comes from religion? It's not just that they have the potential for destruction and hate, it's that those are the only possible outcomes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago A tolerant society can not tolerate intolerance. One side will attempt to "just live", but the intolerant side is incapable of "letting live", and they will not stop until they replace tolerance with their system of hate. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 28 points 1 year ago Why should we? They don't let us live. permalink fedilink source parent [–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago We've tried that one. permalink fedilink source parent [–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago Live and let live is pretty much the antithesis of organised religion permalink fedilink source parent [–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago if that was an option we would not have to have this discussion. permalink fedilink source parent [+] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago* [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent [–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And trickle down some economy while we are at it permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MrNobody@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (7 children) Sure, but since orgaanised religions can't help to force others to live by their standards, they need to get out of the way. I'm fine with people needing a comfort measure, even if its in the form of an invisibile friend. Whatever helps people sleep at night. However, when they try to force their ideals down everybody elses throat thats a big no. So, since they can't 'live and let live' they need to go the way of the dodo, fuck off, and leave the rest of society alone. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 7 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) Meh, I consider religions as political movements. When they go crazy fundamentalist, try to take over and become destructive, sure, shut them down. But not just based on their future potential to turn destructive, that can happen to any ideology if the conditions are right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) But what undeniable good thing comes from religion? It's not just that they have the potential for destruction and hate, it's that those are the only possible outcomes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children) Meh, I consider religions as political movements. When they go crazy fundamentalist, try to take over and become destructive, sure, shut them down. But not just based on their future potential to turn destructive, that can happen to any ideology if the conditions are right. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 6 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) But what undeniable good thing comes from religion? It's not just that they have the potential for destruction and hate, it's that those are the only possible outcomes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children) But what undeniable good thing comes from religion? It's not just that they have the potential for destruction and hate, it's that those are the only possible outcomes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 5 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago (4 children) What undeniable good thing comes from politics? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (3 children) We could get unions, consumer protections, housing and food and other necessities guaranteed. We don't, but we could. Politics is just trying to solidify how things are run. Obviously easily can be used for abuse, but can be used for good. Religion from the first step is to tell you how bad of a person you are and how to resolve it: join a cult, deny personal responsibility for anything and put that on whatever deity or subject for hate at the time, all your answers should be sought through your religion and not outside sources permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children) You're making a lot of value judgements without a whole lot of evidence to back them up. My point is perfect atheist: religious movements are a type of politics with certain aims (not exactly unions, but incidentally communion, charity, etc). It is you who are saying that religion is somehow a special phenomenon who puts them above other ways to organize society...for the worse. Maybe you think that it is because it is irrational and metaphysical. There is plenty of metaphysics in the form of utopias (heaven) in politics, saints/prophets (cult of personality). You just say that bad comes out of religion, but not out of politics...yeah...ok. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 child) Not denying bad comes from politics, especially in regards to the US, clearly we are seeing a lot of awful things that can come from politics, and religion likes to play politics as well. I am and will continue to refuse that religion is capable of producing good will, change for the better, or anything outside of bringing forth hate and destruction permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Gsus4@mander.xyz -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) Depends on who the leaders are. Some Many weaponize religion for their own aims and their ends justify the means. Some are peaceful, tolerant and constructive, all based off the very same texts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] freddydunningkruger@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago A tolerant society can not tolerate intolerance. One side will attempt to "just live", but the intolerant side is incapable of "letting live", and they will not stop until they replace tolerance with their system of hate. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 28 points 1 year ago Why should we? They don't let us live. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago We've tried that one. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago Live and let live is pretty much the antithesis of organised religion permalink fedilink source parent
[–] drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago if that was an option we would not have to have this discussion. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 1 point 1 year ago And trickle down some economy while we are at it permalink fedilink source parent
[+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -45 points 1 year ago (12 children) Why did we get refugees from r/atheism? rolls eyes permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 12 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Ew, when did we get reddit's cringy appeals to the audience talking past the original poster in an ineffectual attempt to throw shade? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) People did that on forums before Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted. permalink fedilink source parent [–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (4 children) The majority of the secular world are atheists. Don't pretend like it is some small subsection just because you live in a bubble of whatever religion you were born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Agnostics. Not necessarily atheists. And they sure as hell aren't sam harris type dickheads about it like this lemmy thread has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Oh good so I'm not alone permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* Agnostic sounds like a sub-category of atheism like it is with different beliefs under theism. Ie. It's Theism vs Atheism, and then everything below the two. If you don't believe or don't know if you should believe, then you're not really a theist, making it atheist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Bro I don't believe in God either. To be honest sometimes I wish I did. Regardles my problem isn't with atheism but with specifcally Reddit Atheism permalink fedilink source parent [+] Mwa -3 points 1 year ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Atheism has never been used as the justification for a genocide - can any major religion claim the same? It's obviously an extreme example, but at the same time it's not entirely unreasonable to feel superior when comparisons like that are so easy to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mwa -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Ew, when did we get reddit's cringy appeals to the audience talking past the original poster in an ineffectual attempt to throw shade? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) People did that on forums before Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted. permalink fedilink source parent
[+] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -6 points 1 year ago (1 child) People did that on forums before Reddit. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago Ah, preachy and unoriginal. Noted. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 20 points 1 year ago (4 children) The majority of the secular world are atheists. Don't pretend like it is some small subsection just because you live in a bubble of whatever religion you were born into. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Agnostics. Not necessarily atheists. And they sure as hell aren't sam harris type dickheads about it like this lemmy thread has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Oh good so I'm not alone permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* Agnostic sounds like a sub-category of atheism like it is with different beliefs under theism. Ie. It's Theism vs Atheism, and then everything below the two. If you don't believe or don't know if you should believe, then you're not really a theist, making it atheist. permalink fedilink source parent [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Bro I don't believe in God either. To be honest sometimes I wish I did. Regardles my problem isn't with atheism but with specifcally Reddit Atheism permalink fedilink source parent
[–] stepan@lemmy.ca 1 point 1 year ago (2 children) Agnostics. Not necessarily atheists. And they sure as hell aren't sam harris type dickheads about it like this lemmy thread has. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Oh good so I'm not alone permalink fedilink source parent [–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* Agnostic sounds like a sub-category of atheism like it is with different beliefs under theism. Ie. It's Theism vs Atheism, and then everything below the two. If you don't believe or don't know if you should believe, then you're not really a theist, making it atheist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago Oh good so I'm not alone permalink fedilink source parent
[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago* Agnostic sounds like a sub-category of atheism like it is with different beliefs under theism. Ie. It's Theism vs Atheism, and then everything below the two. If you don't believe or don't know if you should believe, then you're not really a theist, making it atheist. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago Bro I don't believe in God either. To be honest sometimes I wish I did. Regardles my problem isn't with atheism but with specifcally Reddit Atheism permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mwa -3 points 1 year ago* (3 children) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 3 child comments replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Atheism has never been used as the justification for a genocide - can any major religion claim the same? It's obviously an extreme example, but at the same time it's not entirely unreasonable to feel superior when comparisons like that are so easy to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mwa -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (2 children) Atheism has never been used as the justification for a genocide - can any major religion claim the same? It's obviously an extreme example, but at the same time it's not entirely unreasonable to feel superior when comparisons like that are so easy to make. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [+] Mwa -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[+] Mwa -2 points 1 year ago* (1 child) [deleted] permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 1 child comment replies: [–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* A: that is not what I said B: So the crusades were what, then? permalink fedilink source parent