▲ 169 ▼ ForkServer in Firefox 141: No More Restarts and Better Performance on Linux (ostechnix.com) submitted 1 year ago by vga@sopuli.xyz to c/linux@lemmy.ml 24 comments fedilink hide all child comments
[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 3 points 1 year ago (2 children) Kind of neat... Don't know if really useful at all, but cool anyway permalink fedilink source hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] vga@sopuli.xyz [S] 42 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No More Forced Restarts: This is a huge relief for many!. Firefox on Linux no longer requires a forced restart after your package manager applies an update. This means smoother, uninterrupted browsing, even during system updates. Reduced Memory Usage: ForkServer leads to a significant reduction in memory consumption for content processes. The base resident memory for a content process is now around 50% lower. This helps Firefox run more efficiently, especially if you have many tabs open. Faster Process Startup: You'll notice that content process startup times are reduced by approximately 35%. This translates to snappier new tab openings and overall improved responsiveness. Sounds actually too good to be true to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Reduced Memory Usage: This is the one that really matters. Both Chrome and FF are brutal on memory use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thaurin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s because each tab is sandboxed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) And cached. Browsers just use the RAM for what it exists for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent [–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I for one am extremely happy about the no force restart. It's quite minor in the grand scheme of things, but it is so annoying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) True, its annoying, bit this does not take away the need for a restart of the process, obviously, just you can do it at a more convenient time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Absolutely, it's only about convenience. I often miss the fact that firefox is in the list of all the packages that are getting updated and realize it only when I open a new tab and I get the error message, and that's annoying. Very much a first world problem for sure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] vga@sopuli.xyz [S] 42 points 1 year ago* (1 child) No More Forced Restarts: This is a huge relief for many!. Firefox on Linux no longer requires a forced restart after your package manager applies an update. This means smoother, uninterrupted browsing, even during system updates. Reduced Memory Usage: ForkServer leads to a significant reduction in memory consumption for content processes. The base resident memory for a content process is now around 50% lower. This helps Firefox run more efficiently, especially if you have many tabs open. Faster Process Startup: You'll notice that content process startup times are reduced by approximately 35%. This translates to snappier new tab openings and overall improved responsiveness. Sounds actually too good to be true to me. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] sxan@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Reduced Memory Usage: This is the one that really matters. Both Chrome and FF are brutal on memory use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thaurin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s because each tab is sandboxed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) And cached. Browsers just use the RAM for what it exists for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] sxan@midwest.social 18 points 1 year ago (1 child) Reduced Memory Usage: This is the one that really matters. Both Chrome and FF are brutal on memory use. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Thaurin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s because each tab is sandboxed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) And cached. Browsers just use the RAM for what it exists for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Thaurin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 child) That’s because each tab is sandboxed. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) And cached. Browsers just use the RAM for what it exists for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (2 children) And cached. Browsers just use the RAM for what it exists for. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent [–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I use Auto Tab Discard, have all except 10 tabs unloaded and FF has 5.5 GB reserved, just in case. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnsavoryMollusk@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago Fellow Auto Tab Discard ejoyer, I salute you. Joke aside I recommend this extension if you have a tendency to have a shitton of tabs opened permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children) I have currently 13 tabs open and I don’t see the issue. RAM is there to be used. I actually expect my programs to extensively cache stuff and use the RAM. (The other Firefox processes for the individual tabs are cut from the screenshot.) permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent [–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] ragas@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* (1 child) How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I'm at about a hundred at all times. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 1 point 1 year ago* How can you only have 15 Tabs open? I use bookmarks and close tabs I don’t need any longer. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 point 1 year ago Nah, RAM has to be reserved and can't then be used by other programs until given free. That's why, cache data and only use RAM for currently running and speed-critical stuff. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago That's why my main desktop has 32GB and my laptop 16. We're at the point that these are minimum comfortable amounts. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 child) I for one am extremely happy about the no force restart. It's quite minor in the grand scheme of things, but it is so annoying. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) True, its annoying, bit this does not take away the need for a restart of the process, obviously, just you can do it at a more convenient time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Absolutely, it's only about convenience. I often miss the fact that firefox is in the list of all the packages that are getting updated and realize it only when I open a new tab and I get the error message, and that's annoying. Very much a first world problem for sure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 4 points 1 year ago (1 child) True, its annoying, bit this does not take away the need for a restart of the process, obviously, just you can do it at a more convenient time. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Absolutely, it's only about convenience. I often miss the fact that firefox is in the list of all the packages that are getting updated and realize it only when I open a new tab and I get the error message, and that's annoying. Very much a first world problem for sure! permalink fedilink source parent
[–] acidrain42@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago Absolutely, it's only about convenience. I often miss the fact that firefox is in the list of all the packages that are getting updated and realize it only when I open a new tab and I get the error message, and that's annoying. Very much a first world problem for sure! permalink fedilink source parent