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Thanks to Popcrave https://twitter.com/popcrave/status/1691852136236327316?s=46&t=lcH0dp9biwkMEBKsRQeVeQ

Who here is going to put their ID and photo on X/Twitter

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They don't accept it remote, only face-to-face. I have done it once, 15 years ago. Face-to-face is actually only way to do it to avoid identity theft.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting, so your answer to identity authentication is it is it shouldn’t ultimately be done to do remotely and that everyone needs to queue at the counter.

Meanwhile the UK gov remote system seems to work rather well https://appadvice.com/app/gov-uk-id-check/1629050566

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You do that once in your lifetime, and never after that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Until you change banks, mobile phone provider or visit another country and want a local SIM

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The other bank and other mobile provider identifies you through the another one. I am able to identify through two different banks and mobile provider, and have not in 15 years done it onprem. I do strong digital authentication generally once or twice a week.

Edit: last time was actually when I took house mortgage 13 years ago, and switched bank. Not really a issue to show ID onprem when talking 200k€.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So, to be clear - if you ever need to renew government documentation or get access to government systems (benefits or taxes), the government doesn’t ask to see government ID - it outsources that to bank procedures from n years ago?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Practical sense yes, I accessed my tax info today, and strongly authenticated through my mobile provider. It took me 2 seconds and there was MFA included in the process.

Edit: here is Finnish Cyber Security Centers article how the process works: https://www.kyberturvallisuuskeskus.fi/en/our-activities/regulation-and-supervision/electronic-identification

It is defined in Finnish law that all services must use this mechanisms

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like initial submission of identity documents can be done electronically - not necessarily in-person.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Yes, I noticed also that they have included this support now also.